Posted on 07/22/2007 7:40:38 PM PDT by xzins
“what did the Holy Spirit mention it insufficient times for you?”
Your question does not make any sense. Once again, the only scripture that mentions being baptized into the body of Christ, (His church) is the 1 Cor. 12:12 and that is by the Holy Spirit, not man.
Is his arguement that the name on the church is what the people inside worship? If so, a lot of Catholic churches are named for Mary. How does that fit into his arguement?
“that does not make them denominations their faith was one.”
And so is the faith of the Evangelical churches. It is cultural differences, geographical differences, taste differences and beliefs not important to the core faith that makes people comfortable in affinity groups but it is the same “bread”, one body, the same body of Christ. Are all hands, are all eyes, are all ears, but all make up one body.
I don't beleive that I personally know any Greek Orthodox church members, but the ones I have conversed with on this forum are among the most arrogant and condescending people I think I have ever conversed with.
Are all Greek Orthodox believers like this, or is the Free Republic forum just an aberration and a place for Orthodox members with superiority complexes to hang out and demean every other Christian sect on the planet?
Do you guys really think you are that much better than everyone else, or does it just seem that way when you brag about how wonderful you and your church are?
the church uses BOTH aspects of baptism prescribed in the bible. both immersion in water and baptism by the holy spirit (chrismation).
***I will repeat xzin’s question:
Who ordained Paul?***
Act 9:3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:
Act 9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
Act 9:5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: [it is] hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
Need more?
Act 9:15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:
frankly most protestants i’ve met on this forum are willing to sell out their faith for a group hug.
that said i don’t actually know any greek Orthodox folks off of FR.
***There were 12 apostles. They are the foundation stones.***
Um, 14 altogether were named apostles.
Actually his argument is that he is Greek Orthodox and therefore everything he says is right even if it is wrong and we are Protestants so everything we say or believe is wrong even if it is right.
Its rather simple actually.
Oh, right... or wrong, I forget :>)
But only one (the Holy Spirit) incorporates a believer into the body of Christ, His church. Water baptism is just an outward testimony of that reality; it does nothing for salvation except testify to it. Some churches use it as an initiation rite into the visible church.
there are references in scripture to both being necessary.
No there isn’t. The thief on the cross was never baptized. He went to heaven.
And you obviously think all of us protestants here are wolves?
I think you can say that Peter and Thomas were bricks.
Mark 16:16
you’ll note also that the theif died before the resurrection which was the consecration of the new covenant.
Our faith is in Christ not in our Church.
i think protestants follow paths designed by crafty wolves and whatever your intentions the goal of those paths was leading the sheep astray.
how far can one follow satan ‘to a church’ before they realize where he’s taking them?
Mark 16:6 - Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
A few points here: The operative word is BELIEVES. not baptized. For one, we do not know if he is talking about Spiritual or water baptism. Another point: It doesn’t say “whoever does not get baptized is condemned” it says whoever does NOT BELIEVE is condemned. If baptism was important it would have said so.
Your arguement is wrong. Sorry.
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