Posted on 06/17/2007 2:37:44 PM PDT by NYer
I stopped reading here...
See post #59.
LOLOLOLOL indeed!!!
Isn't it a shame when you can find more truth at an atheist website than at a Catholic one???
Free Inquiry?
http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=fi&page=index
Yup, that publication is where I go to find correct information on any faith, right.
Check out 63 as well.
Let’s get the secular humanists in on this.
*snicker*
Well, if you prefer to get the "truth" from an atheist website, more power to you. As for me, I'll continue to receive the Truth from the Catholic Church, the pillar of Truth, established by Jesus Christ.
Good day!
So then, what part of the article is incorrect???
Personally, I wouldn’t take a single word as correct. Maybe “the”.
Really, do you go to DU to find out about conservatives?
Do you watch the Loose Change films to find out about 911?
Going to secular humanists and atheist website to find out anything about religion is just silly.
Is that the same church that Francisco de Bustamante, provincial head of Mexico’s Franciscans belonged to, who in September 1536, read a memorable sermon in which he clearly dismissed the whole myth of Our Lady, called of Guadalupe, because it makes the natives believe that "the image painted by Marcos the Indian is in any way miraculous.”
LOLOLOL
You don’t get that you are taking that quote from an article written for people who can’t stand religion at all.
Can you quote that from some place reputable?
Let me get this straight. You are saying that everything in the following paragraph from the article is incorrect:
"...clergyman Miguel Olimon—a historian of the Pontifical University of Mexico, a very prestigious official Catholic institution—launched another inquest. This inquiry, too, found clearly against the existence of Juan Diego. Olimon was censored and threatened by the apparitionist hierarchy. One bishop actually lamented in public that there was no more Inquisition to silence troublemakers like Olimon. But this historian decided to publish his work anyway. A Spanish publisher, Plaza & Janes, accepted the manuscript and published it this year under the title La Búsqueda de Juan Diego (The Search for Juan Diego)."
Even a Google search of the quote puts it into doubt...
http://www.google.com/search?q=Francisco+de+Bustamante+%22the+image+painted+by+Marcos+the+Indian%22&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1
what does your atheist website say about Jesus?
I said I would doubt EVERYTHING in that article unless it could be verified by another source.
Sorry, that only makes sense. Secular Humanists hate religion. Lies, half truths and spin need verification.
People publish books with conspiracy theories all the time. It proves nothing.
Truth be told.
Some of us only agree with everything we read on the internet if it agrees with us.
They would probably think more of Jesus if they could get some honest answers to the following questions from those who claim to follow Jesus:
Is it true that clergyman Miguel Olimon—a historian of the Pontifical University of Mexico, a very prestigious official Catholic institution—launched an inquest that found clearly against the existence of Juan Diego???
Is it true that Olimon was then censored and threatened by the Vatican for his inquest findings???
Is it true that a Spanish publisher, Plaza & Janes, accepted the manuscript and published it under the title La Búsqueda de Juan Diego (The Search for Juan Diego)???
>>Is it true that clergyman Miguel Olimon—a historian of the Pontifical University of Mexico, a very prestigious official Catholic institution—launched an inquest that found clearly against the existence of Juan Diego???
Is it true that Olimon was then censored and threatened by the Vatican for his inquest findings???
Is it true that a Spanish publisher, Plaza & Janes, accepted the manuscript and published it under the title La Búsqueda de Juan Diego (The Search for Juan Diego)???<<
These are really good questions. You posted them, how about if you give us the references to prove that the facts you present are true. Answer the questions, FRiend.
It’s on you to prove them. I gave you the google link on your last quote. It comes up with NO credible evidence.
Now, unless you can give us a reference from a credible source, you are blowing smoke.
The other occurred in the 1920s when the FREE MASONS tried to blow up the image, but even with powerful explosives, they did not even crack the glass (it was not protected by bullet proof glass back then)...In a nearby museum is a large, solid-metal crucifix that stood underneath the tilma when the explosion occurred. It was bent in half by the force of the explosion -- which also destroyed the marble steps of the altar and blew out several windows of nearby buildings -- yet there was no damage to the tilma.
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