Posted on 03/04/2007 8:21:23 AM PST by Iscool
"Help me out here ... is this the Monophysite heresy, the Arian heresy, or one that I've forgotten?"
I hesitate to honor this clown with the title of heretic, but if I had to, I'd say he is either an Arian or more likely a Nestorian. A better title would be, quite simply, "Stupid", invincible stupidity being, as we all know, the oldest heresy!:)
"They learn she held no special position other then the Mother of the Messieh. They learn the Catholic church invented a white religion that is racist and portrays Mary, Joseph, Jesus as white people when they were black or brown."
Is this guy the minister at B. Hussain Obama's parish?
Regards to Pat!
Fine, I'll rephrase, the night of the Resurrection.
I didn't catch much of what this guy thought about the Trinity but it seemed he believes in the Trinity but not the same way Catholics do...
Why? Why is this even worth discussing?
I took only a scance peek at it and did not find even a single sentence that is not verifiably incorrect.
Not only is this drivel, it is pornography.
Oh if only the Religion Moderator did not put an interdict against posting Jack Chick cartoons! This article is worthy of a Jack Chick ping!!!
Andrew Ferguson (writes for American Spectator and Weekly Standard, among other publications) and Sen. Brownback converted to Roman Catholicism from the Episcopal and Methodist churches, repsectively. I don't know what Laura Ingraham was before she became Roman Catholic. Lawrence Kudlow was Jewish before converting to Roman Catholicism.
Well he doesn't believe in the Trinity. Been pointed out by people who do their research.
Doesn't matter. When it come to AntiCatholics, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." Subtract Catholics from the equation and these people are at each others throats in an instant.
"Cut up your credit cards, stop worshipping Mary, and learn to speak Greek."
No, No, NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you learn to speak Greek you'll run out and buy all sorts of icons/idols of Mary, start calling her things like Panagia and Most Holy Theotokos, and light candles and incense in front of the idols...then you'll KISS THEM! Oh, the horror of it all!
I love Theotokos. I can read a little Biblical and Ancient Greek. And I did use my VISA card to buy some Icons, they came all the way from Greece. They are very beautiful.
Because the Church in Rome before Constantine and after Constantine were two different creatures. The term "pontiff" for example was never used by any of the Bishops in Rome before Constantine. It was used by Constantine though and he considered himself to be the "de facto" head of the newly formed Roman Catholic Church. The term "Pontiff" then began to be used by the Bishop of Rome some 40 years after Constantine's death. Many of the traditions of the RCC date back to Constantine and this period of the 4th century and no further.
You have just GOT to stop reading Dan Brown.
Let's see YOUR evidence, please. And check with some of our Orthodox brethren to see if they agree with you, if their evidence matches yours.
Also let's see if we can distinguish, please between "forming" and "legalizing". It seems to me the burden is to show that by giving legal status to something that already existed and by providing some legal framework within which it could operate Constantine showed that the thing he legalized pre-existed his state.
When I was an Episcopal Priest (that is, uh, Protestant), I had to register with the state of NY and of VA to be able to do weddings. In a certain sense, I was an agent of the state government. While it is at least arguable that the Episcopal Church, as a distinct,legal corporate entity began with Henry VIII, nobody says that my ministry began when NY said I could do weddings that the state would acknowledge as legally binding. Furthermore, when Henry VII and his parliament outlawed the RC Church and started killing its members, would you maintain it ceased to exist? If not, then are you saying that a Church only comes into existence by an act of civil or secular law but cannot pass out of existence by a like act? Interesting!
This is an easy distinction to make. It's the blurring of existence on the one hand and legal acknowledgment on the other that is hard to understand. You'd have us believe that a baby doesn't exist until it has a birth certificate!
Another pro-choice position! If you kill it before it has a birth certificate, it never was a baby - no harm, no foul!
(Okay, I admit it, I've been reading Ann Coulter again ...)
ROTLFMAO. This all from Constantine's Sword. Your grasp of history is laughable. Constantine the first pope. LOL, that would have been news to Linus and Company. And Sylvester.
So the Church doing some stuff after an event that it didn't do before an event doesn't mean it's a new entity.
It's always funny how totally absent the spirit of Christ's message is from these discussions. The moment the word "heresy" appears, one knows one is dealing with rent-seekers and profiteers.
Really? Who knew? What factual evidence have you for your fantastic claim that "Many of the traditions of the RCC date back to Constantine and this period of the 4th century and no further."?
When an article starts with a lie, it isn't worthy of my time.
It does have the deuterocanonicals ---- but that's okay. I just have to turn a few more pages to get past them so that I can read the Scriptures. And it is always nice to have Maccabees close by and some of the other deuteros. This Challoner version, I believe, dates back to 1734 and reads like the KJV. I was quite amazed.
You said "Jesus traded HIS sins for mine".....uh...what sins did Jesus commit, cool one??
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