Posted on 12/28/2006 8:37:27 AM PST by Alex Murphy
Check it out for yourself.
Was that Creator's name "YHWH or Jehovah" [the God of Israel] or "Allah" [the God of Mohammed]?
adorare can mean either worship or adore not both at once.
You realize most Christians who speak Arabic say Allah and not God right?
Ah I forgot they don't count as REAL Christians for you...
Well, that's the thing.
In their minds they are worshipping a deity who simultaneously (1) created the world and (2) gives virgins to murderers.
In reality, God certainly has attribute (1) and certainly does not have attribute (2).
We both know that there is no God other than God and we both know that Muslims intend to worship God under his true attribute of (1) while they also insist on assigning to Him the false attribute of (2).
The way to look at the situation with the maximum amount of Christian charity is to see Muslims as people trying to worship God correctly but who have been demonically deceived into worshipping him incorrectly.
According to my Orthodox Priest, they don't really worship the same God.
I'm not going to reject his view out of hand, but I would say that they claim to worship the God of Abraham.
From the level of evangelization, I believe the best way to win Muslim souls for Christ is to fasten on the common belief that God is the God of Abraham and to explain how the Gospel is the true and final account of God's self-revelation to mankind and how the Koran cannot be.
Take it up with Webster's Dictionary ----
Is "Allah" their word for "God" or the name of their "God"???
The Creator's name as revealed to Moses is usually transliterated these days as YHWH.
The name means "I am that am" or "I am who am."
"Jehovah" is an inaccurate transliteration.
The translation that is usually used in English to translate YHWH is "LORD" - which is not a literal translation at all.
Arabic-speaking Jews and Christians referred to YHWH as "Allah" for centuries before Mohammed robbed his first caravan.
"Allah" is the Arabic word for "the god" or "the deity" from the Arabic word "ilah" which is related to the Hebrew word "El" - which is used as a name for the God of Abraham in the Hebrew Scriptures along with YHWH and Elohim and Shaddai.
Mohammed did not invent the word "Allah" - he stole it from Arabic-speaking Jews and Arab Christians.
Websters is a rag btw. Get my Oxford's an we'll talk...
Allah is pretty much the Arabic word for God. Not all folks who say Allah are reffering to a guy in Arab garb with a sword, killing infidels, and handing our virgins to lucky martyrs.
So are you saying that "Allah" of the Koran is "YHWH or the Lord" of the Tanach?
(He also stole the Crecent from Christians.)
The word "Allah" is a title, not a name. It has the same function in Arabic that the word "God" has in English. English speaking Christians know that "God" is not actually God's name.
Muslims believe that there are 99 names of God, but that all these names, including "Allah" are really titles and that there is a 100th hidden name which is God's true name.
This concept is another Muslim notion that is taken from Judaism - the Jews never pronounce the name YHWH and consider it ineffable, using titles like "Adonai", "Elohim", "HaShem", "El Shaddai" etc. when praying or discussing God.
No matter what dictionary you use it will never change the 2000 year old meaning of its Latin root: "adorare" which means "worship". The American College Dictionary says the same thing.
Are the ROCORs trying to tell us what our English words mean now? They have enough trouble with their own language.
The Koran is not the first text to use the word "Allah" - Christians and Jews called God "Allah" before Islam existed.
The question here is not whether the Tanach and the Koran are referring to the same God - the God of Abraham which both texts acknowledge as the true God - the question is whether the Tanach or the Koran is an accurate record of God's dealings with mankind.
The Tanach is completely accurate. The Koran is completely inaccurate - except for the passages where it confirms what the Tanach says.
Disdaining European medievals for their lack of cosmopolitan dark-hued models makes about as much sense as contemning them for not celebrating Native American culture. Does this writer complain about the scarcity of Africans and Europeans in old Chinese art?
there are two separate english words derived from adorare worship and adore. if the latins who wrote it meant the other theydve used it. note btw many men adore their wife few pray to her.
further its not possible muslims worship God as they deny the trinity.
Jews deny the Trinity as well, but I do not doubt for an instant that Jews worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
The writer is an imbecile.
The Pope's worry, is that of a father who is not long for this world and who sees his children walking inexorably towards a precipice.
It is not the worry of a CEO who's concerned about the market for his product and ultimately, his own job security.
IOW, his worry is for others, not for himself.
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