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'The Nativity Story' Movie Problematic for Catholics, "Unsuitable" for Young Children
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | 12/4/2006 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 12/04/2006 7:52:47 PM PST by Pyro7480

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To: annalex; Alamo-Girl
[ Then why do you repeat Luther's spin on the very clear gospel? ]

Others observe that Luther UNspun some RCC spun dogma..
Who is correct?.. Depends on your observation post.. I suppose..

6,981 posted on 01/19/2007 12:58:59 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

No. The fundamentals of Luther's theology are not supported by plain reading of the scripture. They are all "don't read this book", "that passage does not mean to say what it says", "this word should really be inserted here".

I admit, there is a certain superstructure in Catholicism, what we call traditional or magisterial teaching. If one wanted to avoid it and build a sub-faith based on the Bible alone, well, he would have to find "Bible alone" in the Bible if he were a logical man, but that would be an intriguing and perhaps even worthwhile exercise. But this is not what Luther was about. He simply lied about the content of the gospel.


6,982 posted on 01/19/2007 1:17:49 PM PST by annalex
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To: annalex
James was speaking to believers, to exhort them to put their faith into practice.

"Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble." -- James 2:18-19

Works are the fruit of the Holy Spirit and by them we are known.

DOES JAMES CONTRADICT PAUL?
by John Piper

And...

OF GOOD WORKS
by A.A. Hodge

And...

THE ROMAN CATHOLIC TEACHING ON
SALVATION AND JUSTIFICATION
BY William Webster

6,983 posted on 01/19/2007 1:36:24 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: kosta50

My sins are covered by the blood of Jesus but I still have to confess them and ask his forgiveness. Please don't bother me any longer.


6,984 posted on 01/19/2007 2:26:04 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: hosepipe

Yep, too bad some of the religious folks here don't KNOW that yet.


6,985 posted on 01/19/2007 2:28:26 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Me, too, AG. But I'm only a mere protestant who believes her sins have been covered by the blood of Jesus. What do I know? (smile)


6,986 posted on 01/19/2007 2:31:13 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Mad Dawg

I think we're all a bit guilty of that, Mad Dawg. Some of this stuff is so unloving as to make me wonder where Christ really is in all these posts.


6,987 posted on 01/19/2007 2:35:15 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: D-fendr

Oh, dear. I am really tired of learning patience...LOL.


6,988 posted on 01/19/2007 2:38:53 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Marysecretary
But I'm only a mere protestant who believes her sins have been covered by the blood of Jesus. What do I know? (smile)

Rejoice. 8~)

6,989 posted on 01/19/2007 2:41:40 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I know the Protestant spin on the Epistle of St.James and nave no interest in, or respect for the gospels of Messrs. Piper, Hodge, and Webster. I can read what is written in the Holy Scripture myself.


6,990 posted on 01/19/2007 2:48:28 PM PST by annalex
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To: HarleyD
We don't make a "decision" as to whether we want to think evil thoughts.

We exercise several choices here. What to do with that thought, any thought - whether to pursue or drop it. And we choose what habits we practice and develop. We choose where we focus our attention - whether it is on our own thoughts or toward God. We choose, in varying degrees what we are surrounded with and what we feed our senses - whether it is true beauty, good sounds and sights, etc. These choices in turn affect what thoughts arise.

The choices we make are exercises of conscience, which is formed over time and properly formed becomes integrity, the Christian goal of becoming that which we were created to be. And our conscience comes ultimately from God.

6,991 posted on 01/19/2007 3:01:53 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: annalex
[ I admit, there is a certain superstructure in Catholicism, what we call traditional or magisterial teaching. If one wanted to avoid it and build a sub-faith based on the Bible alone, well, he would have to find "Bible alone" in the Bible if he were a logical man, but that would be an intriguing and perhaps even worthwhile exercise. ]

The yarn that Peter was the first Pope.. is specious..
As are a plethora of things the RCC stole from pagans..
Actually "bible alone" is in the bible.. with eyes to see and ears top hear..

6,992 posted on 01/19/2007 3:03:59 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Marysecretary
Oh, dear. I am really tired of learning patience.

Me too! Dear Lord please do not send me any more exercises in patience..

thanks Mary..

6,993 posted on 01/19/2007 3:04:13 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: hosepipe

Petrine primacy is in the Bible. The renaming, the grant of keyes, the charge to feed the sheep, the prayer to convern the brethren. Not bad for a humble fisherman. To argue about the rest, define "pope".

The big thing we "stole" from pagans is the calendar. Gee, it works!

Where is Bible alone in the Bible? I am asking this thing like a metronom on this thread. So far, much chest-beating, no answer. Be my guest: chapter and verse please.


6,994 posted on 01/19/2007 4:48:20 PM PST by annalex
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To: D-fendr

Thank YOU, d-fendr. Mxxx


6,995 posted on 01/19/2007 5:02:41 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I appreciate you, Dr. E. Love, Mxxx


6,996 posted on 01/19/2007 5:03:52 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: annalex
[ To argue about the rest, define "pope". ]

Pontifex Maximus.. title of a Roman Emperor...
You know... dictator..

6,997 posted on 01/19/2007 5:07:47 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

It kinda boggles the mind, doesn't it hosepipe. It's so simple but others try to make it so difficult with their big words and arrogance. Grrrr.


6,998 posted on 01/19/2007 5:08:24 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: annalex; D-fendr
You are spinning the word "lust".

Perhaps. However I don't excuse homosexuality as a preference.

6,999 posted on 01/19/2007 5:10:01 PM PST by HarleyD ("...even the one whom He will choose, He will bring near Himself." Num 16:5)
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To: HarleyD

7000 posts.


7,000 posted on 01/19/2007 5:13:59 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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