Posted on 12/04/2006 7:52:47 PM PST by Pyro7480
"but the saints, presumably including the martyrs of the Church were dismissed as dead people not deserving of or not caring for our company."
I have not been able to follow all of the posts on this thread so I am not familiar with this. Is this from the praying to the saints debate?
This is not correct, and this is what I object to. John 5:38f does not say that we have eternal life through the scriptures.
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I think the point was missed. The poster was not asserting John 5:38f meant that.
I've liked him ever since I saw and heard his reaction to 9/11 when so many were making excuses for a cursed religion.
John MacArthur is another on TV who speaks the truth in love so clearly only a fool could miss it.
No I contending that all protestant doctrines are flawed and designed to sway beleivers of the true faith away from it. It has nothing to do with individual parishioners and everything to do with the official doctrine of the church being based solidly on Holy Scripture.
Proestant's ain't, ours is; and it's evidenced.
We can pray to the Father, yes. But Christ said many other things we need to do before we end up with Him. Baptism, Eucharist, works of charity are necessary as well, according to the scripture the Church gave us.
Proestant's ain't, ours is; and it's evidenced.
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Methinks "evidence" has just been referenced to that curious rubber dictionary.
Sounds like those insisting
And don't forget circumcision!!!
Mutilation of the faith and the faithful, indeed.
It does vary. The Catholic Church traditionally teaches, as a rule of thumb, that the age of reason is attained at 7 and recommends the first confession and first communion at about that age, generally.
Indeed it has, you cannot name a single ROCOR parish which doesn't follow 1 Corinthians but I can name thousands of Protestant ones that do not.
What you mention are only gross perversions because you don't know the Gospel very well. However, gay marriage and abortion are outside the pale in any serious religion, yet, some Protestant groups condone them.
What about circumcision now?
The key given St. Peter is given not him personally but to the future Church that Christ intended to build, and that Church, He said, shall not fail. So here you go, words of Christ against your spin.
Was there something about
Cottonwood, AZ which was obscure?
Perhaps I misunderstood.
I don't think I have the ability to sufficiently make my point clearer to the point where it would bear fruit. My lack.
Hint . . . the point seems to have been missed ENTIRELY.
There are no ROCOR parishes in Cottonwood. The only ROCOR parishes in the entire state are in Phoenix and in Tucson.
If you have some evidence please post it, it's much preferable to lying by saying there's a ROCOR parish somewhere there is not.
Big smile. We understand each other.
Ahhhhhh . . .
I'm not aware of any great Holy Spirit demonstrations and confirmations in the Phoenix group either. But I really haven't conversed with anyone in that group for quite a long time.
yes.
Are you trying to change the subject? We're talking about whether given churches head Paul's words in 1 Corinthians.
No, circumcision is not necessary, as the Church rescinded the requirement, as we read in Acts and in Galatians.
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