Far and few inbetween are such temples."
For example, +Mary of Egypt.
Posted on 12/04/2006 7:52:47 PM PST by Pyro7480
One must guard against spiritual pride. Only those who empty themselves of all pride become temples for Spirit's indwelling.
Like glass, the light of God shines through them, yet they have become invisible, never drawing attention to themselves, so that all we see is God's light through them.
Far and few inbetween are such temples.
And Catholics worship Mary and pray to statutes.
Virgin worship is filthy paganism in every instance..
Foreign to anything biblical.. trying to share Christ's sacrifice..
Most pagan religions have a form of virgin worship.. From Isis and Horus and her perpetually infant son.. To Ashteroth and her husband Baal... Queen of Heaven is a stalwart in eastern religion especially Buddhism and Hinduism.. Rome had vestal virgins a muddy mix from many sources.. Even animism has its queens of heaven that are virginal..
Did I say FILTHY?...
Like your tagline.
There's no evidence in Scripture for the Immaculate Conception, nor for the Ascension of Mary.
They are fables.
Of COURSE I believe you, you baklava-scarfing Orthodox scum! ;-)
I wasn't trying to confront so much as just to say, Hey, WE believe that TOO!
Caution, I have not had my coffee yet. This is a side note: WHen I did Aquinas on the Sacrament I seem to recall that he acknowledged the validity of Orthodox orders. So whatever we thought of you, I'd venture to say that we didn't think you weren't in the sho' 'nuff Church. Or maybe Aquinas wasn't representative?
Makes perfect sense to me!
I also thought specifically of you, my sister, in reading the following on the last page of Simone Weil's book, Waiting for God
The last sentence she wrote in the notebook found after her death was:I've never met one who does that better than you.
"The most important part of education - to teach the meaning of to know (in the scientific sense)."
Far and few inbetween are such temples."
For example, +Mary of Egypt.
"WHen I did Aquinas on the Sacrament I seem to recall that he acknowledged the validity of Orthodox orders."
Could be; I've never heard that.
"Or maybe Aquinas wasn't representative?"
That's certainly possible. Aquinas wasn't representative of a lot of what the Latin Church believed both before and after his death, the Immaculate Conception for example.
I think you will find that for many centuries, Rome looked at the Orthodox as being wholly outside the Church because our bishops were not in communion with the pope and would not submit to his claimed universal immediate jurisdiction.
"Of course she needed a savior. This is who redeemed her ang granted her her holiness."
If the Theotokos was born without being subject to the effects of Ancestral Sin and was sinless in her life, what was she redeemed from? And if she was ontologically in a permanent state of theosis from the moment of her conception, and we assuredly are not, what is it about her that we are to emulate. Are we to strive to attain some similitude to the Theotokos, to attain a "likeness" to the Theotokos rather than Christ, or in addition to Christ? Is this a sine qua non of theosis? In all honesty, Alex, I think its just this concept which leads to certain excesses in Marian devotion that we most all recognize, most especially the Co-Redemptrix idea as it is popularly advanced.
At base this is all rooted in the idea of Original Sin and the absolute depravity of mankind after the Fall. It is that concept which necessitates the whole idea of the IC and turning the Theotokos into someone ontologically different from the rest of humanity. Does this mean that Latin theology makes the Theotokos a goddess? No, of course not, but unfortunately these concepts seem to have lead many of the Latin faithful to look at her and react to her exactly as if she were a goddess even of they would never call her that.
B, in saying the foregoing, I am positively NOT saying that praying to her for help, or comfort, having icons or statues of her in the home and/or office and venerating her, praying the rosary, singing hymns in praise of her, etc amount to goddess worship.
Article 4, Q 74, Tertia ParsThe question is whether it is mo' better to use leavened or unleavened bread. Much to everyone's surprise He comes down on the side of unleavened bread, but in the course of his discussion he says it would be a sin for Greek Priests to use unleavened because she should play by the rules of their team. (Dawg paraphrase)
I always understood this to mean that he thought there really were Greek Priests.
To tell the truth, all I remembered was the question was in the 70's, AND the opinion about playing team ball.
"I always understood this to mean that he thought there really were Greek Priests."
I think its very likely he did. In his days, the schism wasn't as absolute as we might often believe. Indeed, into the late 1600s there were ties of communion between various Orthodox bishops and Latin Rite bishops, even in the Aegean. In fact, as recently as within the past 200 years there were joint celebrations of feastdays on various of the Aegean Islands. But I do think you'll find that from about 1100 on, Rome itself felt that the Orthodox were outside The Church, even if on a local basis that wasn't so true.
Take a read of the writings of Pius IX and Leo XIII. I think they are pretty clear that they believe the Orthodox are damned.
Stipulating the differing understanding of sins and hoping the idea will make it across the differences, her redemption was that she "was born without being subject to the effects of Ancestral Sin and was sinless in her life".
This is not where my studies go, so I am certainly open to correction by folks who know what they're talking about.
Anyway, FWIW part of the language is:
... by a singular grace and privilege granted by Almighty God, in view of the merits of Jesus Christ,..., was preserved free from all stain of original sin,..."
So presumably the stain is, while not of the essence, still inevitable without "a singular grace and privilege".
"Ineffabilis Deus" is short, but it's heavy going.
Could you narrow your aim a little. I'm on dial-up. :-) And my brain is analog and the tubes keep burning out. :-(
I'm not certain, but, yes, I think you probably did. It rings a bell anyway.
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