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'The Nativity Story' Movie Problematic for Catholics, "Unsuitable" for Young Children
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | 12/4/2006 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 12/04/2006 7:52:47 PM PST by Pyro7480

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To: Quix
We don't live in a vacuum.

Well, some of us do. It's very cramped, and every day or so there's this terrible windstorm that gets everything dirty real quick. I wish they would change the bag and filter more often.

11,981 posted on 03/25/2007 3:16:49 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: kawaii
FK: "It is not Biblically sound to imply that the relationship between Christ and Paul was "less than" that with the other Apostles."

Which is why there are 70 something apostles.

Is your statement then that Paul was a "lesser" Apostle? I have found that several Apostolics have little use for Paul although he composed most of the NT.

11,982 posted on 03/25/2007 3:49:45 PM PDT by Forest Keeper
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To: Alex Murphy

LOL.

Much needed humor. Thx.


11,983 posted on 03/25/2007 4:14:38 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY, HIM & HIS KINGDOM 1ST)
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To: wmfights
The theory of Mary's assumption is not in Scripture. If you wish to build a doctrine around assumption and it's significance you should look to those that actually were assumed into heaven.

Sure it is. To those who have eyes, it is as clear as day. Mary is the archtype of the immaculate and pure Church that has fully realized its eschatological end. Elijah has nothing to do with the community ascending to heaven - the Jews didn't even believe in an after-life when Elijah was taken away anyway...

If you don't see it in Revelation 12 that the "woman" is Mary AND the Church, what can I say?

Regards

11,984 posted on 03/25/2007 5:44:43 PM PDT by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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To: Alex Murphy

Hey, for fun and a good bath, get one of those new ugly ones you see on Tv. Can't remember the name at this moment. That's got water in it and I can imagine how filthy that must get after cleaning the rugs.


11,985 posted on 03/25/2007 7:30:52 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: jo kus

Yes, they have and on FR as well. The Lord's mother deserves respect but too many Catholics put her on a pedestal and make her equal with Jesus. It just isn't so. Nobody should be offensive to Mary but seeking the truth shouldn't be offensive. Mary would be offended at all the attention given to her. She was an obedient child and God used her to bring forth the Christ child but she would be the first one to reject all the adulation given to her.


11,986 posted on 03/25/2007 7:34:41 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: jo kus

Yes, he spoke to her during her prayer time. She wore the head covering for probably a year. Her daughters did as well. He said it was a sign of submission to her husband and to Him. He has greatly blessed her and her husband's ministry because of her obedience. They both have great discernment and are filled with the Holy Spirit. God wants to speak to all of us but most of the time He can't because we are too busy to take time to listen or don't believe He does that anymore. I've heard him 'speak' to me as well and it comes as a 'heart thought' (my way of describing something indescribable). The first time I recognized it was when I was at the end of my rope and at the worst state I was ever in and it came to me very clearly, "But I will take care of you, Mary." And He has.


11,987 posted on 03/25/2007 7:38:39 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Mad Dawg

the 'true church' is the body of Christ, not the Catholic Church. You can be saved through faith in Jesus Christ alone. Anyone from any church can be saved if they repent and turn their lives over to Jesus Christ. They then become part of the larger Body of Christ (the true church). I know we disagree on this, Mad Dawg, and it will probably never be resolved on these threads.


11,988 posted on 03/25/2007 7:43:31 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: 1000 silverlings

Amen. Mxxx


11,989 posted on 03/25/2007 7:51:44 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: kosta50

Well, kosta, I'm glad God knows my heart and that YOU are not in charge of that job. I will wear a head covering, or an apron, or go naked if the Holy Spirit prompts me to do that, not you.


11,990 posted on 03/25/2007 7:53:31 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Running On Empty

The Holy Spirit came after Jesus died. If she was filled with the Holy Spirit, she could lay hands on the sick and they would recover, and she could possibly raise the dead, or any number of the things Jesus did. But she would not have any more of a spot in the Kingdom than any other disciple. She would merely have been the same as they or we, as His disciples, would be--no more and no less.


11,991 posted on 03/25/2007 7:59:38 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Marysecretary

I hope you are encouraged to stay clothed.


11,992 posted on 03/25/2007 8:04:57 PM PDT by Running On Empty
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To: Running On Empty

Don't worry, I've got more scars on me than I care to share (smile).


11,993 posted on 03/25/2007 8:06:18 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Marysecretary

I don't agree. So be it.

I also don't know how you can be totally, 100%, unequivocably sure of what you say here. How do any of us know for sure all the mysteries of how we, or any other human being, are with God? That is His domain, not ours.


11,994 posted on 03/25/2007 8:09:02 PM PDT by Running On Empty
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To: annalex

I will never ask the Catholic Church, which I believe you are in reference to. I would go to my own Pastors but never to a Catholic church. I disagree with their teachings and just wouldn't do it.


11,995 posted on 03/25/2007 8:09:49 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Marysecretary

PS

All that is hidden will be revealed.


11,996 posted on 03/25/2007 8:10:10 PM PDT by Running On Empty
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To: Running On Empty

But He does let us in on things from time to time, ROE. We don't, of course, know all the mysteries. I don't claim to, but I do ask the Holy Spirit for the words to say (not all the time unfortunately). I don't want to only give my opinion but I do have viewpoints which you may or may not agree with here. That's okay.


11,997 posted on 03/25/2007 8:16:35 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Running On Empty

Yes, it will. Sometimes we just have to dig around in His Word for it and at other times, the HS reveals it to us. All is revelatory, especially His Word. Mxxx


11,998 posted on 03/25/2007 8:17:31 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Kolokotronis; wmfights; annalex; Forest Keeper
Indeed, in Orthodoxy individuality in religious belief or practice is believed to be very dangerous except for the most adavnced in theosis because of the ability of the Evil One to appear to the individual as a being of light. In this way it is fundamentally different from Protestantism which is at base individualistic. I think when we all discuss the differences between Orthodoxy (or the Latin Church, some Anglicans, some Lutherans and/or the Oriental Orthodox) and Protestantism it is important to remember this fundamental difference in religious mindset.

Indeed, crucial.

11,999 posted on 03/25/2007 8:23:18 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Marysecretary
I will wear a head covering, or an apron, or go naked if the Holy Spirit prompts me to do that, not you

First, you wouldn't know if it was the HS "for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light." [2 Cor 11:14])

and, second, it is not I but the Bible that tells you to be covered.

Apparently, not even that is good enough for you.

12,000 posted on 03/25/2007 8:27:15 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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