Posted on 12/04/2006 10:22:38 AM PST by SirLinksalot
*If you took the time to undertake a climatological study, you'd find that Europe in the 16th Century was damp, VERY damp. Luther would have been difficult to ignite.
The Gospel of John, Chapter Six, speaks of the the Body and Blood of Jesus as real food and real blood. So, your disagreements are with your Creator, not me. Transubstantiation is our explanation of how that Miracle happens. Miracles can be only partially understood. Purgatory is in both old and new testament... 1 cor 3...If any man's work burn, he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire.
Acts 5:1-10. Peter rebukes a fellow "believer" and his wife for listening to Satan and attempting to deceive God. Ananias and his wife fall down dead. Certainly the Church is shown to have power of temporal judgement over those who profess faith and yet act to undermine the Church.
By the way, it was the secular leaders at the time who sought capital punishment for disloyalty to the Church, not the Church itself. The Church simply excommunicated those who could not accept doctrine. A fine point... but a point nonetheless.
That's neither the number of chapters, nor is it a three figure number
You're correct re: chapters - it was versus to which that website refers. Pedantry is always appreciated.
funny that you should comment on pedantry when you're engaged in spurious numerology
St. John seemed to focus on numbers, a specific number, and that same number appears as the last three digits in a count of verses (again, according to an islamic source) of the Koran. I find that interesting - you are under no obligation to do so.
Pedantry is the proper term to use when you focus on the word used rather than the point being made. Oops, my bad, so sorry, but my point remains the same. Spurious describes your claim that my count was off - unless you want to dispute the islamic website I pulled it from. If that's the case, don't argue with me - send that webmaster an email.
All that said, some of your other responses on this thread have been informative without relying on weak debate tactics, and I appreciate them. But I'm not the debate police, either, so take that however you want.
The first half of my response was pedantic, the second half was basic math. 6,666 is not a three digit number and it means something very different those of use using Hindu-Arabic decimal numerals than it did to St. John, who rendered the number "chi-xi-sigma".
On a related note, a friend of mine in high school, a great heavy-metal fan, thought it was significant that he logged 333 hours at his summer job at a landscaping company. Maybe it is, but like your 6,666 verses.
And I would like to point out that a quick Google search for "number of verses in the koran" gives 6,346. http://www.kanoonline.com/publications/islam_and_the_internet.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayah
I have no inclination to count the verses myself, but you should recognize that the 6,666 count looks either subjective or suspicious in light of these other numbers.
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