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Halloween: Behind the Mask
Good News Magazine ^ | Fall 2005 | Jerold Aust

Posted on 10/22/2006 10:37:57 AM PDT by DouglasKC

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To: DouglasKC
God hates mankind's dabbling in the spirit world of Satan and his demons!

Ain't that the truth? Look how p!$$3d off he got when Adam and Eve gained the knowledge of good and evil.

341 posted on 10/24/2006 12:47:44 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Mathemeticians are machines that turn coffee into theorems.)
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To: DouglasKC

Ok, I was a bit over the top with "you people" Sorry.

However, the evidence for TOE is vast. You either have to; a) deal with it, no matter what worldview you hold, or B) ignore it.

Same with the origins of Halloween. It is not a satanic holiday even though some folks perverted it and called it such.


342 posted on 10/24/2006 12:47:57 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: DouglasKC

And upon reviewing Leviticus 23, I see they are mostly celebrated with a lot of barbecue. I can work with that.


343 posted on 10/24/2006 12:48:07 PM PDT by linda_22003
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To: DouglasKC
Lots of things don't "appear" in the NT. I have no use for eggs and bunnies, and in MHO, the association of them with the Resurrection is an attempt by unbelievers to lessen and marginalize the day holy to Christian believers, just as Santa does to Christmas.

Perhaps all Christians should just go about long-faced and miserable, because Leviticus got all the good ones.

344 posted on 10/24/2006 12:49:49 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (why is it so difficult to understand)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
God hates mankind's dabbling in the spirit world of Satan and his demons!
Ain't that the truth? Look how p!$$3d off he got when Adam and Eve gained the knowledge of good and evil.

Great point.

345 posted on 10/24/2006 12:50:27 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: linda_22003

Interesting review from 1894 of the Old Testament including Leviticus:

http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/robert_ingersoll/about_the_holy_bible.html


346 posted on 10/24/2006 12:51:18 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: linda_22003
And upon reviewing Leviticus 23, I see they are mostly celebrated with a lot of barbecue. I can work with that.

It would be good, but you don't have to. Read Hebrews next and see why animal sacrifices are no longer needed...

347 posted on 10/24/2006 12:51:27 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: RadioAstronomer

A little on the severe side (you do know who Robert Ingersoll was, right?).

My problem with some of the posts here as that they make Christianity sound grim and humorless; that we can only love God properly by eliminating all possible levity from our lives. Boy, what a great way to attract people to Christ!

And, of course, eliminate candy corn. You don't have to eliminate candy corn to be Christian.


348 posted on 10/24/2006 12:54:18 PM PDT by linda_22003
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To: RadioAstronomer

Robert Ingersoll is probably an expert on barbeques, right about now.


349 posted on 10/24/2006 12:55:37 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (why is it so difficult to understand)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Ok, I was a bit over the top with "you people" Sorry.

S'alright.

However, the evidence for TOE is vast. You either have to; a) deal with it, no matter what worldview you hold, or B) ignore it.

I choose to ignore it because I believe it's evidence that's misinterpreted.

Same with the origins of Halloween. It is not a satanic holiday even though some folks perverted it and called it such.

Give me your evidence on this.

350 posted on 10/24/2006 12:55:40 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: linda_22003

Yeah,
but Yaelle said God hates Snickers.

That's just sad ;)


351 posted on 10/24/2006 12:56:02 PM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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Yaelle,
I just mentioned you and didn't ping you! Sorry, my bad (about the snickers).

~~sob~~


352 posted on 10/24/2006 12:58:28 PM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: DouglasKC
I didn't project pagan intent. That's your statement. In a previous post I offered the opinion that 90% of those who celebrate Halloween do it out ignorance or because of deception.

I've read most of this thread and either didn't see that statement or forgot it. You could be right about the 90%... I'm not in that 90% and I don't know anybody who is. But regarding those Christians who are in that 90% or X%, you cannot say they are sacrificing to devils.

Your question about homosexual behavior is comparing apples to oranges. As I previously posted, here are two additional articles that offer some additional insights:

How Should Christians View Halloween and Christmas
What About Halloween

You quote: 1Co 10:20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.

The Christians I know who celebrate Halloween are not sacrificing to devils. I've never even heard of Christians celebrating Halloween by sacrificing to devils. And you cannot know their intent unless you are God.

353 posted on 10/24/2006 12:58:47 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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Well, that's the Old Testament God - you know, the vengeful one. Still, you're probably safer with
354 posted on 10/24/2006 12:59:18 PM PDT by linda_22003
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My problem with some of the posts here as that they make Christianity sound grim and humorless; that we can only love God properly by eliminating all possible levity from our lives. Boy, what a great way to attract people to Christ!

If you depend on candy and trick or treating to bring Christian joy, then that's kind of shallow. Scripture has a lot to say about Christian joy, and none of it has to do with physical trappings.

1Th 2:19 For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming?

3Jo 1:4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth.

Real Christianity is not "grim and humorless".

355 posted on 10/24/2006 1:00:27 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: linda_22003

Yeah,
The OT God was the mean one.
Kinda cranky as I recall.....

BBQ and CC are the way to go.


356 posted on 10/24/2006 1:00:33 PM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Same with the origins of Halloween. It is not a satanic holiday even though some folks perverted it and called it such.

Actually it was pretty scary wasn't it? You had that ritual of killing someone made famous in our day by the short story "The Lottery". Killing a sacrifice, usually the strongest and handsomemest man in the village, to promote good crops, is pretty Baal worshipping, and not ordained in anything God said.

That movie "The Wickerman" is just a pun on "Wicca man" don't you think?

357 posted on 10/24/2006 1:01:35 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (why is it so difficult to understand)
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To: DouglasKC

No,
but lots of 'Christians' are grim and humorless.

But, without them, we wouldn't have fun threads like these!!!


358 posted on 10/24/2006 1:01:35 PM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: DouglasKC
Sin is still here. It didn't go away. God doesn't "permit" it. He forgives it for Christians, but he expects that we won't do it, and if we do, that we'll repent of it.

No argument here. But God is still the author of freedom.

359 posted on 10/24/2006 1:02:34 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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That's right, it's not grim and humorless, but why make it seem that way? Halloween is no more about Christianity these days than it is about Satanism. It's totally secular. In my church, All Hallow's is an important day in the liturgical calendar, and we do observe it. But at home, when the kiddies come around, it's all about the
360 posted on 10/24/2006 1:02:46 PM PDT by linda_22003
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