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Peter & Succession (Understanding the Church Today)
Ignatius Insight ^ | 2005 | Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger

Posted on 10/21/2006 4:52:03 AM PDT by NYer

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To: Diego1618
This is a very common error made by those of the Roman persuasion.

ROFLO! You better check out the Greek and Eastern Orthodox who are also of the Catholic persuasion.

581 posted on 10/22/2006 7:10:25 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: Diego1618

I'd say something like that too, if I were in your shoes. LOL


582 posted on 10/22/2006 7:10:25 PM PDT by Petronski (CNN is an insidiously treasonous, enemy propaganda organ.)
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To: Quix
I've observed a number of professing Roman believers who were all gah gah about he Pope and rather blase, dismissive and casual about Jesus Christ Their Lord.

Example?
583 posted on 10/22/2006 7:12:21 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Pyro7480

I'm 59. 60 shortly.

I'd guesstimate I've met several dozen who fit that description. I don't keep a record of their wrongs and certainly not of their names.

Was of concern at the times of observations in each case. Grieved my spirit.


584 posted on 10/22/2006 7:13:55 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix
And, there are so called "Pentecostals" as well as authentic Pentecostals who fit into a number of folks pigeon holes.

You mean like these?

Rodney Browne

Kenneth Copeland

See? At least I can provide some evidence.

585 posted on 10/22/2006 7:14:29 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: Pyro7480

Well gee, even if true, that "they" were making fun of me that would be very "Christian" in behavior.


586 posted on 10/22/2006 7:15:12 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Pyro7480

Give some examples.
= = = =

Actually, I believe that anyone who's observed a large enough sample of Roman Believers or Believers of any other group for that matter . . .

will have plenty of examples in their own experiences to refer to.

Human nature's that way. God makes a difference. He takes longer with some than with others.


587 posted on 10/22/2006 7:15:48 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix
I'd guesstimate I've met several dozen who fit that description. I don't keep a record of their wrongs and certainly not of their names.

Wait a second here. You did keep a record of their wrongs because you mentioned it here.

588 posted on 10/22/2006 7:16:47 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: Quix

Well, if you can't back up your claims, why make them?


589 posted on 10/22/2006 7:17:04 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Give me an army saying the Rosary and I will conquer the world." - Pope Blessed Pius IX)
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To: FJ290

I am not a Protestant.


590 posted on 10/22/2006 7:17:53 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

I was not mocking you, I was mocking your steadfast, almost allergic refusal to spell out the name Jesus Christ.


591 posted on 10/22/2006 7:18:17 PM PDT by Petronski (CNN is an insidiously treasonous, enemy propaganda organ.)
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To: marajade

Good grief.


592 posted on 10/22/2006 7:19:07 PM PDT by Petronski (CNN is an insidiously treasonous, enemy propaganda organ.)
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To: FJ290

We're an independent Apostolic church. But you can google the 'Assemblies of the Lord Jesus Christ' to get the fundementals. Sure, the ALJC is not old when measured by addresses, non-taxable status paperwork, etc., but holds the doctrine that was held by the church, as Peter would say, "at the beginning". (Acts 11:15)

Since this is the time of the Lord's church (ever since that Holy Ghost pouring out on the day of Pentecost) we teach and preach the same thing that Peter and the apostles did.



593 posted on 10/22/2006 7:19:13 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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To: marajade
Well gee, even if true, that "they" were making fun of me that would be very "Christian" in behavior.

Aw..toughen up if you want to play with the boys. Don't go crying now and getting all girly on us.

You needed to be reprimanded for your flippant "JC" tag you have applied to the most beautiful, Holy Name of Jesus Christ.

594 posted on 10/22/2006 7:19:20 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: Petronski

JC knows my heart and is the judger of facts. Too bad for you.


595 posted on 10/22/2006 7:19:21 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: FJ290

How were they "flippant"?


596 posted on 10/22/2006 7:20:15 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

James Cagney knows your heart? Wierd.


597 posted on 10/22/2006 7:20:21 PM PDT by Petronski (CNN is an insidiously treasonous, enemy propaganda organ.)
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To: marajade
I am not a Protestant.

Yeah, and the Pope isn't Catholic, LOL!

All you do is PROTESTant the Catholic Church.

598 posted on 10/22/2006 7:20:37 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: Diego1618
This is a very common error made by those of the Roman persuasion.

While reading the Church fathers and the first three hundred years of Church history, I came to the conclusion, as a Protestant, that all the oldest churches were Catholic. That's one of the main reasons I became Catholic.

-A8

599 posted on 10/22/2006 7:20:54 PM PDT by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: FJ290

No. Keeping a record of their wrongs in the Biblical sense would have been to have remembered who did what by name or identity somehow . . . and recording it or remembering it and holding it against them.

I did nothing of the kind. But I have a rough memory of the numbers of people involved in a kind of unconscious running tab such as the sociologist part of me might keep. No names. No identities--and not even specific examples.

That, however, does NOT mean, my memory is total fabrication. I've been a student and researcher of such for a long time.


600 posted on 10/22/2006 7:21:21 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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