Posted on 10/21/2006 4:52:03 AM PDT by NYer
The correct answer is 12.
LOL!
Actually, one of them makes your hand smell unusual. But I can't remember which.
Sorry if I don't subscribe any importance to "doctrine"
I do, however, subscribe importance to the Word.
Then why in the world did you ask?
You asked for an explanation of what it was, that is what you were given.
My original question stands: Is the Pope infallible about teachings of the Bible? Or is it the teachings of the Catholic Church?
Based on 2Peter 3:15-16, how do you know that ANYTHING you read in Scripture is correct?
Or is it the teachings of the Catholic Church? Yes.
Not a denomination?
Oh, really?
Says who?
Sounds like blacks, caucasians and Orientals denying that they are members of their race.
OK, substitute the following for "denomination:"
"All organized formal Christian groups with any hierarchical leadership to any significant degree at all."
Anything reasonable to spare a fellow FREEPER the blackboard torture.
You said to Diego1618: **..You are in disagreement with more the overwhelming majority of Christendom.**
I ask: Is the term 'Christendom' applicable to any sect that adherrs to all or part of the NT? Many of these sects that believe that God is a trinity of three separate and distinct persons contradict each other in areas vehemently, calling each other 'cults'.
Jesus' parable about the wedding where one showed up without a wedding garment, His mentioning of those that say "Lord, Lord..". They did this or that in his name, and his response? "I never knew you". Matt. 7 (same chapter where he says "few there be that find it")
My Godhead opinions are lengthy, and I type really slow, but if you are curious you can look here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1599380/posts?page=11#11
and comments 21,37,149,152,154,156
Because of John of 1:1 and that the Word is the inspired word of God.
I thought you said that some verses contradicted others.
No I said that there are verses in the Bible that contradict the doctrine the Catholic Church and what the Bible itself says.
Where does the Bible say that it is the inspired Word of God, chapter and verse.
(And I'm getting offline and won't be back until tomorrow morning, so I won't respond right away.)
2 Timothy 3:16-17.
that's O.K. FRiend....I've got the time....and would like to hear your opinions.
I don't understand the question. Are you asking a question about logic, (i.e. how do we know that x = x)?
How does anyone know that He was Jesus?
I don't understand this question either. There are many different ways of taking this question, so if you have a genuine question, you need to clarify and focus the question.
What did the One Holy Apostolic Church of the day want to do to Jesus?
When you say "the day", to what time period are you referring? Without knowing that, I cannot know exactly what you are asking.
You asked some good questions about discerning prophets under the old covenant. And a person might discern the truth of the Church just by seeing its character and testimony. But in this era, no one has more ecclesial authority than the Apostles and the bishops whom they have ordained. As Jesus Himself said, “He who listens to you listens to me; he who rejects you rejects me; but he who rejects me rejects him who sent me.” (Luke 10:16) That does not mean that the bishops are in every way infallible. Nor does it mean that a bishop could not be rightly rebuked by an unbeliever, if the bishop was in sin. If a person claiming to be a prophet were to arise today, and were to reject what the Catholic Church teaches and has always taught, we would know him to be false prophet.
I know that scripture is plain on the big issues
If that were true, then all 20,000+ Protestant sects are dividing the body of Christ over petty issues.
If the scriptures were so hierarchal
I never claimed that the scriptures are hierarchical.
These being the same bishops who hide the sins of their priests? These being the same bishops who advocate breaking civil law in direct violation of scripture?
If you want to learn about the relation between the moral state of the bishop and the efficacy of the sacraments he administers, study the Donatist controversy.
I, sir, am not willing to delegate my salvation to fallible men.
I don’t know exactly what you mean by “delegate my salvation”. But everything I know about Jesus I have learned through fallible men. If you have a direct pipeline to heaven, good for you.
I prefer to take the writing of Paul to heart and take responsibility for my own salvation, to believe on the Lord, to confess my sins to Him, the only Mediator between God and men, to study the Word, and be prepared to testify whenever the case arises.
Catholics believe and practice all those things too, so that isn’t the issue that separates Protestants and Catholics. The fundamental issue on which all the other issues depend, is whether Christ gave authority to a living Magesterium or not. The answer to that question can be found both by studying Scripture and the Church fathers.
-A8
Pride? No. I just know that the Bible says that a woman can't preach or teach.
"Let the woman learn in silence, with all subjection."
"But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to use authority over the man: but to be in silence."
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