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Peter & Succession (Understanding the Church Today)
Ignatius Insight ^ | 2005 | Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger

Posted on 10/21/2006 4:52:03 AM PDT by NYer

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To: Diego1618
Our Lord knew from the beginning that one was the devil....but your Church never knew....countless times they stumbled in their selection of leadership.

Are you calling our Popes the devil? Go ahead, be a man and spit it right out!

441 posted on 10/22/2006 4:46:45 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: wagglebee; Diego1618

"And has the Catholic Church EVER claimed that certain Popes were not bad choices, or tried to claim that everything they did was right?"

According to your own doctrine is not the Pope infallible?


442 posted on 10/22/2006 4:47:17 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

You do not understand Papal infallability.


443 posted on 10/22/2006 4:47:57 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: FJ290

"Amen, that's what we've been telling her, brother."

Who is the "her" you've been telling?


444 posted on 10/22/2006 4:48:25 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

Apparently you don't know what infallibility is, either.

And I don't think it will be helpful to explain.


445 posted on 10/22/2006 4:49:20 PM PDT by Running On Empty
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To: wagglebee

"You do not understand Papal infallability."

I know what Romans 3:23 says. Please explain to me the difference.


446 posted on 10/22/2006 4:49:38 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Running On Empty

Give my post 446 a shot. Thanks.


447 posted on 10/22/2006 4:50:21 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

Is her a he?


448 posted on 10/22/2006 4:50:25 PM PDT by Running On Empty
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To: marajade
According to your own doctrine is not the Pope infallible?

In matters of faith, morals and teachings. He doesn't have to be perfect in his own personal life. Did Jesus pick men who were without sin as His Apostles?

Of course not, but His Twelve chosen ones never strayed from what He had personally taught them. The same with the Pope. He might err in his human behavior, but he CAN NOT err in the matters I listed above.

449 posted on 10/22/2006 4:50:42 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: Running On Empty

Are we talking all mankind?


450 posted on 10/22/2006 4:51:06 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

Huh?


451 posted on 10/22/2006 4:51:42 PM PDT by Running On Empty
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To: Diego1618

Stumbled in their selection of leadership . . .

As has and does every denomination . . . and seemingly sometimes, every congregation.


452 posted on 10/22/2006 4:51:51 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: marajade
Who is the "her" you've been telling?

The HER is you and I pinged you on it. You're a woman, so you're HER.

453 posted on 10/22/2006 4:52:01 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: marajade
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and do need the glory of God.

Even the Pope has sinned. You're having another boxing match with a strawman.

454 posted on 10/22/2006 4:52:10 PM PDT by Petronski (CNN is an insidiously treasonous, enemy propaganda organ.)
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To: FJ290

"In matters of faith, morals and teachings."

Teachings... hmmm... I can cite many a scripture in which there is contradiction.


455 posted on 10/22/2006 4:52:52 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

The two have NOTHING to do with each other and the fact that you even attempt to imply that the Catholic Church has ever suggested that Popes are sinless is yet another indication of how ignorant you are.


456 posted on 10/22/2006 4:52:56 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Running On Empty
Is her a he?

No, she's a woman. She shows up on many Catholic threads. Especially the ones about celibacy and birth control. Being anti-celibacy and pro-birth control.

457 posted on 10/22/2006 4:53:47 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: FJ290

You didn't ping me.


458 posted on 10/22/2006 4:53:58 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: wagglebee

I'm asking for you to tell me of the doctrine of the Catholic Church and the diff bet the two.


459 posted on 10/22/2006 4:55:01 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
Teachings... hmmm... I can cite many a scripture in which there is contradiction.

Well, pardon me if I don't take your intrepretation seriously since you ignore the ones about women, LOL!

460 posted on 10/22/2006 4:55:11 PM PDT by FJ290
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