Posted on 09/18/2006 1:51:27 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
Signing off for now. And have very little desire to reply to your posts. Try a search engine for 'Equidistant Letter Spacing in the Torah' (1st 5 books of the Bible) and let's see you disprove the ELS codes.
Or maybe prove that Psalm 22 was not written hundreds of years before Jesus Christ and that God did not fulfill all of these prophecies regarding the death of His Son on the cross.
Really? Wow. And here I thought we were a nation of laws, and secular laws at that. Perhaps you can provide a reference to the "divine ordinance" that is embodied in, oh, say, the 1st amendement, or the commerce clause, or Section 7 -- just for starters.
The specific term is "Creator." This does not necessarily imply a god, or even specifically the Christian God. The founders were very specific in their word choices; does it not strike you as odd that "God" is not specifically mentioned?
I have no idea what phantom you are responding to. I have not defended government schools.
But government schools teach many things that contradict a literal reading of the Bible. The earth moves. Pi does not equal three. Bats are not birds. Grasshoppers have more than four legs. The sun does not orbit the earth.
I thought that many of the founders were Deists.
Still waiting...
At what point in time did God deprive apes of souls? Why did he do so? Sadistic amusement, sort of like kids pulling wings off flies?
Thank you. To be honest, I believe I have been bested by ol' Doc Stoc. (In post 211 to this thread).
That is my understanding, though there appears to be some controversy over that.
From your link, Thalos:
"Also, we must be aware that it is modern science that has a different classification system than ancient times. To the ancients, creatures such as a bat were considered birds since they categorized all flying animals as birds. If that is the category that they used, then they were correct. It is not an error. It is a difference of categorization procedures. The critic has imposed upon the ancient text a modern system of categorization and then said that the Bible is wrong."
What part of this explanation do you disagree with? Are you saying modern taxonomy is your basis for disagreeing with the Bible? I would call that a pretty weak, unsupportable argument.
The same site discusses rabbits.
Locusts: Perhaps the hind legs (hoppers) were not counted in the description. From a current web site (http://www.geocities.com/brisbane_insects/ScientificInsect.htm):
"There are great variations on insect legs. Cockroaches have three pair of strong legs and they run very fast. Grasshoppers have their last pair of legs modified and they can jump to start a fright quickly. Praying mantids have their front pair of legs like a weapon to catch prey. Dragonflies do not use their legs to walk but to capture insects and hold them under their mouths. Butterflies use their legs to taste the food. Besides, insect legs are also used for digging and swimming."
Note:
from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthoptera
Taxonomy note
Note that the cricket suborder Ensifera will probably be given its own order soon, the Grylloptera. The Orthopterists' Society also recently (December 2005) decided upon a major change in the classificatory organization of the Ensifera.
So what absolute minimum amount of time is required for the present day status of mankind to reach its current genetic diversity from 8 already diversified individuals?
Thanks for your direct answer. I do believe the Bible is divine revelation. I am also aware of the dispute in Christian circles over evolution.
It has been nice "talking to you."
I believe God made the present universe without any pre-existent materials.
I also believe He destroyed mankind, excepting 8 individuals, with a universal flood. I am not discounting supernaturalism in the flood.
Jesus and other New Testament writes referred to Noah, the flood, and the eight survivors.
As far as comic books, I have seen some pretty sketchy evolution drawings, including some on this thread. I have also seen some very professional, highly polished depictions, in print and film, of what happened in the past ages, millions of years ago, that are nothing but total fabrication from pure speculation, but presented as fact in the name of science.
A human population genetic bottleneck may have occurred 70,000 years ago or so and bottomed out at 10,000 or more individuals.
The current level of diversity in humans and animals could not have happened in a few thousand years.
Indeed. These are the kinds of errors you would expect from cultures of that time -- but not from God.
Taxononmy is classification. It by definition cannot be error because it is subjective. While one could say that our system is much more precise than the ancients, one must never confuse accuracy and precision, especially in situations where, as here, the issue is one of inherent definitions.
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