Posted on 01/15/2006 3:06:52 PM PST by SirLinksalot
Question is..who would want more than one wife? I guess a masochist or Hugh Hefner.
The bible doesn't mention crack cocaine or pornography and we know that these things are evil.
This is the typical Protestant response because they find the practice culturally abhorrent.
God didn't tolerate polygamy, he blessed it in the case of Jacob.
And God approves of Monarchy. Israel's sin was that they wanted a man to be their king instead of God to be their king.
This, again, is Protestant culture warping scripture. It's called the Kingdom of Heaven and the Kingdom of God, not the representative republic of God or the Democracy of God.
If you read Acts, you'll find the primitive church was hierarchical and authoritarian, not democratic.
Do you mean Jesus Christ the only begotten Son of God?
Or do you have another in mind?
And you don't know about lust, do you? Strongs says that it is coveting, which implies an improper wanting and longing for what isn't yours.
Again, I'm telling you that there is a difference between lust and love, even if you don't want to believe it.
Polygamy IS always the exception. The purpose was clearly for the purpose of raising seed. As an aside, that's why David and Solomon's polygamy was condemned in the Book of Mormon. They did it to build a harem or for political alliance, not to raise a posterity (like Abraham and Jacob).
Witchcraft includes aspects of drug use, so indirectly crack is covered and I think you actually research it you'll find references to pornograpy, too.
He never blessed it. Please quote the scripture. God never approved of the monarchy, once again quote scripture. Kingdom of heaven is just that Kingdom of Heaven, don't see where you are confused there? And layoff the Protestant name calling and flaming or I can assure you your stay here will be brief friend.
And most cases shown a lot of misery. Hagar & Ishmael jealous of Sarah & Isaac, { a jealousy that caries on still today} Rachel becoming greedy and Jacobs marriage to her sister came from her fathers deceit, King David never had enough it cost his friends life and first born son to satisfy his lust, Solomon did not find much happiness in it either. Although I think it was permitted for mans needed survival of that time, Paul's advice on the matter is much wiser for all concerned.
If you were as those - Abraham included - who did not understand - or mocked(?)- the original and early Biblical admonition to marry in the singular (Genesis II:24), and your sister consents, then yes, there is apparently little else to stop you from having sex with her.
That is exactly what I was going to say!
If we believe that Jesus is the son of God, then would common sense say to us that Joseph and Mary were the example of family that our Lord would want us to have.
Technically speaking, the Mormons aren't Christian. Their baptism is invalid. Same for the Jehovah's Witnesses.
Don't you just love the old testament?
Yes I know that is my assertion here on a thread about that particular subject:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1555210/posts
I would start with the fact that God presented Adam with one wife.
I would follow with the fact that God never commanded anyone to marry more than one wife.
The pattern of one man-one woman follwed until we reached the time of Abram, ... who was the son of idolatrous people.
Abram (Abraham) had moderate success with his one wife, Sarai (Sarah) ... until he listened to his wife ... and married, then bedded his wife's maidservant Hagar.
As a result of that second union, there was rift between the two women, ... there was tension between Abraham and each of the two women, ... and Abraham was, ultimately, forced to put Hagar (and his son Ishmael) out of his house.
As has been cited on this thread, ... there has been a state of was between Isaac's children (the Jews) and Ishmael's children (the Arabs) ever since.
The next case of polygamy which involved one of God's servants was that of Jacob.
That case even started out bad.
Jacob was in love with Rachel, and had been promised Rachel in marriage (by Rachels' father Laban), ... for seven years of labor on Jacob's part.
When Jacob had fulfilled his seven years of labor, ... Laban pulled a switch on him ... and married him to Rachel's sister, Leah.
Subsequently, Laban married Rachel to Jacob as well, in exchange for seven more years of labor.
And the situation between the sister wives was misery from day one.
Leah knew that Jacob favored Rachel, so she parayed to God ... and was blessed by providing many sons, and one daughter, to Jacob.
When Rachel realized that Leah was gaining ground on her, ... she set her mind on bearing sons for Jacob as well ... and she did ... Joseph and Benjamin. However, Rachel died giving birth to Benjamin. The sisters even got their maidservants into the act, which each bore Jacob a few more sons, as well.
Although the situation resulted in a number of sons for Jacob, it can hardly be thought that Jacob's marriage situation was God's idea.
The next major contender is David, the second king of Israel, who had some half-dozen wives, if I recall correctly.
David's marital situation was not a particularly godly one either.
In the mix, David's oldest son raped his half-sister, and was subsequently killed by his half-brother.
That son, Absolom, rebelled against David, and actually forced him from Jerusalem, before he was, ultimately, routed and killed by David's men.
Solomon, Bathsheba's son, had been hand-picked for the throne after David's death, but Solomon's older brother Adonijah made a play for the throne first, and was killed at his brother's command. Not a pretty picture.
And, of course, Solomon took the cake with his 700 wives and 300 concubines. As has been cited, Solomon's wives turned his heart from God, which resulted in the division of the kingdom.
There are no cases of cited polygamy in the New Testament that I know of ...
Aside from the testimony of the scriptures, I think that Motherbear's was the best comment I have seen on this issue ..."The law of christ is love."The record of polygamy in the Bible only affirms what Motherbear has said here.
Yes, the law of Christ is love, and when a husband takes a second "wife," and enters her bedroom, the pain brought on the first wife has absolutely nothing to do with love. Do a web search and read the testimonies of those wives. Incredible pain. This is not "the law of love." It is the law of selfishness and greed.
Yeah, she was thirteen or so and her firstborn was conceived by God Almighty.
Then she had a string of kids that the Roman Catholics deny.
I'll bet that is an example that you didn't follow.
Common sense my butt! LOL...
(not laughing with you, but at you!)
That you know of anyway. Who knows who else was there? If you like to think that Adam and Eve were the only humans God made/formed/created, then you have to be open to the idea that there was some massive incest going on at that time.
And, Eve? She brought about sin and the fall of glory upon us all.
I could say that by your logic monogamy brought about the fall of creation.
Deuteronomy 17:17...
I would start with the fact that God presented Adam with one wife.
That you know of anyway. Who knows who else was there? If you like to think that Adam and Eve were the only humans God made/formed/created, then you have to be open to the idea that there was some massive incest going on at that time.
Most believe that there was what we would think of as major incest going on.
Even by the time of Abram, he was married to his half-sister.
And, Eve? She brought about sin and the fall of glory upon us all.
Actually, the scriptures say that it was Adam who bears the blame.Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:I could say that by your logic monogamy brought about the fall of creation.
And you would be wrong. It was Adam's weakness which brought about the fall of creation.
Or more likely mating with the fallen from heaven cast out perhaps as these seem to be nearly super beings?
Eden was the start of what was to be the perfect creation of the Hebrew nation. Their {Adam & Eve's} disobeying GOD resulted in their banishment. I think Genesis ch 6 gives us a hint to it. I don't think Cain, Abel, or Seth, slept with their sister. They married ones who were here cast outs of heaven from Lucifer's fall. That only served to increase mans evil.
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