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USCCB reviews Brokeback Mountain ["The universal themes of love and loss ring true. ..."]
United States Conference of Catholic Bishops ^ | Dec 12 2005 | usccb

Posted on 12/14/2005 11:22:00 PM PST by Antioch

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To: AmishDude
Bzzzt! Wrong-o back atcha. Your understanding of the industry is tenuous as best. I could go into the genesis of this project, but that's all a distraction from my point, which is that the "controversy" of people "protesting" it (and I don't see why anyone should even care--the moviemakers have every right to make it) is something the studio expected.

According to the accounting, which I know something about, this is looking to do just fine money-wise. No one can predict for sure, but this is being marketed craftily, conservative outrage included in the mix.

81 posted on 12/15/2005 11:39:04 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (An agnostic who never, ever says "Happy Holidays")
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To: AmishDude

BBM has a budget of under $20 million. With the buzz it's getting and those admittedly preliminary per screen averages, when you add in the DVD and TV sales, this thing is probably already in profit. Not very nip and tuck when it's at or near profit before it's even opened in more than 5 theaters.


82 posted on 12/15/2005 11:44:24 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (An agnostic who never, ever says "Happy Holidays")
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To: mike182d

Thousands of sexually offended, furious bikers...

Can't say I'd ever want to see that...


83 posted on 12/15/2005 11:48:58 AM PST by dangus
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To: Antioch

Personally, I kinda liked the old "X" rating for queeer-movies.


84 posted on 12/15/2005 11:57:23 AM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: dangus
Can't say I'd ever want to see that...

I'd love to see it, I just wouldn't want to be the one that caused it. :-)
85 posted on 12/15/2005 12:04:19 PM PST by mike182d ("Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?")
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To: Antioch
As the Catholic Church makes a distinction between homosexual orientation and activity, Ennis and Jack's continuing physical relationship is morally problematic.

Ya think?!

86 posted on 12/15/2005 12:44:28 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Darkwolf377
Well, the production budget is under $14 million (boxofficemojo). Since you know the industry, you must know that marketing is usually half of production costs, so I guess that's where you're getting 20. But I'd argue that before it's said and done marketing will be a bit higher than the usual formula.

The point here is the cynically predictable juvenile nature of the project. "Gay cowboys, that'll get all those middle-class prudes!" First of all, we all knew it would be a critical success before it hit the screen. Second, we all knew it would be an Oscar contender (and Golden Globe winner, bank on it) before the voters even saw it. Third, it was predicted by none other than Eric Cartman, and I am really surprised that the main press doesn't mention it.

It's the same old indy film stuff, just this time somebody's heard of the director and actors.

Now the absurdity of a lonely sheep herder turning to his male partner for sexual companionship aside (I mean, we're talking SHEEP here!) its only purpose is to be provocative.

Fine, but let's not pretend it's Shakespeare.

87 posted on 12/15/2005 12:59:23 PM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: Darkwolf377

BTW, how am I wrong about the thing not making money until the Oscars? It hasn't cracked a mil in gross receipts (gross). DVD and TV won't come into the picture until at least the spring.


88 posted on 12/15/2005 1:01:05 PM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: Antioch

Let's see...this is a film about betrayal, deceit, lust and peverse sexuality, to mention just the overview character points, and it's being endorsed?

I can barely believe what I'm reading: the thieves are running the bank, the fox has captured the henhouse, the homosexuals have overrun this aspect to "church" opinion.

Yes, this is a film about male homosexuality and lust in full bloom, and over and over again. But, take a look at the story itself and how these two main characters continue to deceive one another, their respective families and even abandon and abuse other people (also themselves).

The ONLY thing being lauded and commended about this film is that it's a pornographic film being sold and marketed in family neighborhood theatres. THAT's what the homoseuxual and otherwise, liberal groups is lauding: that they're making a "breakthrough" attempt to bring these terrible character faults into popular acceptabilty.

They're parading very bad character traits, not to mention behaviors, as "good" and going for sympathy for same. In that, they're commending themselves, and it's a moral and ethical loss for all of us.


89 posted on 12/15/2005 2:48:08 PM PST by MillerCreek
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To: Darkwolf377
We can deny it all we want

LOL You aren't denying anything -in fact, you are acclaiming and promoting the sick film on this very thread.

90 posted on 12/15/2005 3:42:28 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: NYer
The feeling of disgust just goes on and on. It's rather obvious where the USCCB's priorities lie. It's not with promoting Catholic Christian morality. If that's not the case, then the reviewer should be fired.
91 posted on 12/15/2005 6:28:49 PM PST by cielo
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To: Antioch

Conclusion of Review: And his Versace cowboy boots were to die for.


92 posted on 12/15/2005 6:34:13 PM PST by Always Right
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To: pillbox_girl

Any bets as to how hard it will be to find a pirated Brokeback Mountain torrent?

Shouldn't be all that difficult to figure out. All you closet types who listened to idiots who told you to "marry a nice girl, and this will go away" will be feverishly downloading anything you can about this.

Do you ever notice how those folks who say "marry some nice girl and settle down, and this will go away" to gay guys never volunteer their own daughters for that little experiment. (Wise, but morally bankrupt, people.)


93 posted on 12/15/2005 6:51:29 PM PST by ChrisDC
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To: Antioch; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; livius; goldenstategirl; ...

Can ANYONE defend the USCCB in this case?


94 posted on 12/15/2005 7:48:48 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: Thorin

The reviewer is absolutely drooling over the thought of drooling over the actors *****


95 posted on 12/15/2005 8:00:54 PM PST by hdstmf (too)
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To: narses
This is all expected-hold on to your faith. We've gone from being unable to imagine any normal person advocating this filth, to the USCCB endorsing it. And all in a single generation.

The Virgin Mary intimated our Age to Lucy in Fatima in 1917:

"Look, my child, don't be surprised if, at a certain moment, a certain diabolical disorientation affects the best of minds, a disequilibrium, so that they no longer judge according to the voice of my Son and of Peter."

96 posted on 12/15/2005 8:07:38 PM PST by Antioch (Benedikt Gott Geschickt)
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To: ChrisDC
You seriously think the web movie pirates will touch this film? Let me know if you find it anywhere (I, myself, wouldn't know where to look).

Personally, I doubt you'll find a pirate copy of this film on the internet. All homosexual issues aside, this film looks dull, tedious, and just plain stupid.

I grew up watching cowboys played by John Wayne, Gary Cooper, and Brigadier General Jimmy Stewart. I want my cowboys to track down rustlers, fend off apaches, bust broncos, protect villages from marauding banditos, and always out draw the bad guy. I don't want to see cowboys (or shepherds billed as cowboys) sharing their feelings and tender moments. Cowboys shouldn't have feelings. They should have steely eyes and determined jaw-lines.

97 posted on 12/15/2005 9:45:31 PM PST by pillbox_girl
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To: Darkwolf377
The Matix should have gotten a PDB rating for Pretentious Derivative Bore.
98 posted on 12/15/2005 9:50:59 PM PST by TradicalRC (No longer to the right of the Pope...)
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To: ChrisDC
Shouldn't be all that difficult to figure out. All you closet types who listened to idiots who told you to "marry a nice girl, and this will go away" will be feverishly downloading anything you can about this.

Haha, you got zotted.

99 posted on 12/15/2005 9:51:46 PM PST by darkangel82
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To: Antioch
all very tastefully shot—

The very phrase that rationalizes all forms of pornography.

100 posted on 12/15/2005 9:54:22 PM PST by TradicalRC (No longer to the right of the Pope...)
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