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THE FIFTY MOST INFLUENTIAL CHURCHES (Saddleback Church - "Purpose Driven" - is No.1)
Virtueonline ^ | Aug 1 05 | Contributed by Dr. John N. Vaughan

Posted on 08/03/2005 1:46:50 PM PDT by churchillbuff

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To: churchillbuff
Fifty Most Influential Churches

Um, influential in what way?

41 posted on 08/04/2005 6:11:46 AM PDT by ksen ("He that knows nothing will believe anything." - Thomas Fuller)
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To: gamarob1

Titus 1:6 An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.

7Since an overseer is entrusted with God's work, he must be blameless—not overbearing, not quick-tempered, not given to drunkenness, not violent, not pursuing dishonest gain.

8Rather he must be hospitable, one who loves what is good, who is self-controlled, upright, holy and disciplined.

9He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.


42 posted on 08/04/2005 6:58:44 AM PDT by Zechariah_8_13 (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: gamarob1

and

Matt 5:31
"It has been said, 'Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.'32But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.

and
"I hate divorce," says the LORD God of Israel


43 posted on 08/04/2005 7:07:36 AM PDT by Zechariah_8_13 (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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Got problems with a divorced pastor? How about a divorced God?

Jeremiah 3:8
And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.


44 posted on 08/04/2005 8:44:55 AM PDT by GeorgiaYankee
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Yeah, and in the context of Greek culture, one wife at a time, NOT, one wife overall. What about someone who's wife dies? They can't remarry either and be a pastor by your pharisaical, self-imposed rules?

Take yourself out of bondage, buddy...

45 posted on 08/04/2005 10:40:15 AM PDT by gamarob1
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To: Zechariah_8_13

Why do pharisees quote just that one verse? Doesn't God hate all sin? What about YOUR sin? Doesn't He hate that too?


46 posted on 08/04/2005 10:40:47 AM PDT by gamarob1
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To: gamarob1

Way to argue, bud.


47 posted on 08/04/2005 10:54:59 AM PDT by Zechariah_8_13 (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: Sprite518

I do not think that is Charles Stanley. However, I never have heard Charles Stanley. Andy his son is terrific. I highly recommend it if you ever get a chance.


48 posted on 08/04/2005 9:04:44 PM PDT by Sprite518
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