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Bishop Smith illegally storms St John's Church
The Connecticut Six ^ | 7/13/2005 | Episcopal Diocese of Connecticut

Posted on 07/13/2005 12:46:26 PM PDT by sionnsar

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1 posted on 07/13/2005 12:46:32 PM PDT by sionnsar
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To: ahadams2; anselmcantuar; Agrarian; coffeecup; Paridel; keilimon; Hermann the Cherusker; ...
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2 posted on 07/13/2005 12:46:58 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Kyoto: Split Atoms, not Wood)
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Check out the comments here: Your prayers requested for the Connecticut Six.
3 posted on 07/13/2005 12:51:22 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Kyoto: Split Atoms, not Wood)
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To: sionnsar

Let us not forget St. John Chrysostom’s famous dictum, "The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of bishops."


4 posted on 07/13/2005 12:58:30 PM PDT by Gman (AMiA Priest.)
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To: sionnsar

The tone of the headline seems out of sync with the text.


5 posted on 07/13/2005 1:13:18 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: sionnsar

Is it becoming standard practice in ECUSA to replace recalcitrant orthodox priests with priestesses, as an object lesson to their congregations?


6 posted on 07/13/2005 1:19:45 PM PDT by Loyalist (No confidence in Mr. Dithers.)
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To: PAR35
The tone of the headline seems out of sync with the text.

Yes, I saw that too. It came off the CT6 website -- there the headline is in context, with the note (included) that this is the diocese' press release.

7 posted on 07/13/2005 2:18:26 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Kyoto: Split Atoms, not Wood)
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To: Loyalist

They have to put the priestitutes somewhere...usually in small, rural churches or troubled ones such as this one. What a gold-plated mess. ECUSA is an embarrassment to Christendom and ought to be ashamed to display the cross on their buildings.


8 posted on 07/13/2005 2:23:43 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: sionnsar

This story actually brought to mind an incident at mainline presbyterian church a few days ago, with somewhat different results:

Moderator Ufford-Chase leads
group intruding on worship service

With tempers flaring and many congregants bursting into tears, a contingent led by Rick Ufford-Chase, the moderator of the Presbyterian Church (USA), tried unsuccessfully to take over the June 26 worship service being conducted by the majority of First Presbyterian Church in Torrance, Calif.

The service verged on pandemonium as Ufford-Chase and his allies milled around the chancel area, some of them talking loudly during prayers and hymn-singing and one, on at least two occasions, trying to forcibly grab the microphone, which was broken during one attempt. Church officials filed a police report, accusing the intruders of vandalism.

* * *
more, plus some photos here:
http://www.layman.org/layman/news/2005-news/moderator-ufford-chase-leads-group.htm


9 posted on 07/13/2005 5:17:20 PM PDT by PAR35
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Let's all reflect a good long while on this GEM of a comment from a poster over on that board you linked to:
Unfortunately, becoming an opening and welcoming church will require driving off those who are not open and welcoming. Like Amos, I pray that Bishop Smith can successfully suppress dissent in Connecticut so that ECUSA will be safe for diversity. It is only by eliminating those who refuse to be conform to the rules of ECUSA and be welcoming that we will have true diversity in ECUSA.
Nice. A regular Athanasius this guy.
10 posted on 07/13/2005 5:21:10 PM PDT by Claud
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They have to put the priestitutes somewhere...

If I may say so, kitty, this is rather uncalled-for. Not all women clergy are whores, or even liberals in their outlook. Some are actually quite conservative and respectable; we have had a few such on FR, and continue to have such.

We can, and do, differ on the validity of their orders. I remember one who noted here on FR that she was leaving ECUSA (lamenting how she had been led astray), renouncing her orders, and joining an orthodox church -- though whether it was Continuing or AMiA, I do not recall.

I know nothing about McCone except the (IMHO bad) company she keeps.

But lumping all female clergy into one singular basket is a mistake.

11 posted on 07/13/2005 6:51:39 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Kyoto: Split Atoms, not Wood)
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"Unfortunately, becoming an opening and welcoming church will require driving off those who are not open and welcoming. Like Amos, I pray that Bishop Smith can successfully suppress dissent in Connecticut so that ECUSA will be safe for diversity. It is only by eliminating those who refuse to be conform to the rules of ECUSA and be welcoming that we will have true diversity in ECUSA."

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, we now have an accurate definition of what the Left defines as DIVERSITY!!!

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12 posted on 07/13/2005 7:06:07 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Kyoto: Split Atoms, not Wood)
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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

Matthew 10: 34-36

This doesn't exactly sound like a call for "diversity."

13 posted on 07/13/2005 7:14:21 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: sionnsar
Well, at BEST McCone is a willing tool.

She has to know the injustice and oppression being meted out by this bishop, and she not only stays silent, she cooperates with it.

I think it's possible, however, that she is an enthusiastic participant in the "ethical cleansing" of ECUSA.

Which, I am afraid, would make her a priestitute. If she is backing the bishop wholeheartedly (and not because he can do to her what he has done to the rector of this parish), then she has sold herself to what she knows is wrong for power, position, and the approval of the bishop.

I'm unwilling to tar all female priests with the same brush. BUT . . . I will say that since my former ECUSA parish was the main "training parish" for all new priests in the diocese, I saw almost every priestess ordained in the Diocese of Atlanta for 28 years. With one exception, they had received orders for all sorts of reasons except one - to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and him crucified. Most were highly political feminists, many were neurotics, some had something to prove, some were frankly short-haired mean lesbians who were out to beat the church into submission to their way of thinking. Even the one exception, who was a pretty good priest and has done well in her own parish, has been deluded into wholehearted support of GC 2003.

The lunacy that the priestesses by and large brought with them has not been worth it. I won't go so far as to call them priestitutes, but they HAVE contributed a great deal towards destroying ECUSA as we knew it.

14 posted on 07/13/2005 7:16:37 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To be fair to Kitty, this particular priestess is at least a heretic. She is executive director of a group of "affirming catholics" who sent a letter to the Eames Commission in June 2004 pleading the case for Gene Robinson.

I don't know anything about her personal life, but I think its a fair conclusion that she's being put in the parish to as a poke in the eye to the orthodox.

15 posted on 07/14/2005 4:14:38 AM PDT by Martin Tell (Red States [should act like they] Rule)
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No doubt.


16 posted on 07/14/2005 7:24:50 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Kyoto: Split Atoms, not Wood)
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I am all too familiar with the iron fist of "diversity" in the ELCA. Well-founded rumors indicate that our presiding "bishop" wants to see as many orthodox laity, pastors, bishops, and thelogians leave the ELCA as possible, so that the revisionists will have a purely "diverse" and "affirming" "church" (CLUB, really).

That poster is totally cockeyed. Amos did NOT suppress dissent--he was the dissenter!!!! The biblical knowldege of the revisionists is very minimal indeed, and what little "knowledge" they have is corrupted by their twisted exegesis!!!!

As for women priests/pastors, I never call them "priestitutes", since that is too close to "presstitutes" (like Dan Blather, Geraldo Rivera, etc.). Besides, I know many wonderful orthodox Lutheran women pastors. However, I also know many horrible feminazi and lesbian woman priests/pastors, and every woman "bishop" in the ELCA that I know is a total disaster.

However, McCone, as an "Affirming Anglican Catholic (?)" is a card-carrying feminazi and gaysbian enabler!!!! I posted about this bogus and hypocritical "affirming catholic (?)" movement yesterday.

17 posted on 07/14/2005 7:36:37 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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Remind me again what the Episcopalian objection to Catholicism is.

Something about authority and the potential for its abuse, wasn't it?


18 posted on 07/14/2005 7:36:45 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: Claud

"Unfortunately, becoming an opening and welcoming church will require driving off those who are not open and welcoming. Like Amos, I pray that Bishop Smith can successfully suppress dissent in Connecticut so that ECUSA will be safe for diversity. It is only by eliminating those who refuse to be conform to the rules of ECUSA and be welcoming that we will have true diversity in ECUSA"

Behold, the iron fist inside liberalism's velvet glove!

Here's a story from during the days of the Arian crisis. Arian clergy forced an Orthodox Christian catechumen to be baptised. As the lady refused to be baptised by Arian clergy, they forced the issue and so she found she was being baptised against her own will. As she emerged from the font, all dripping wet and with oil running down her body from head to toe, she sweetly said, "Thank you for the bath." Other Orthodox Christians were martyred by the thousands for refusing to receive Holy Communion from the Arian clergy. Some things just never change.


19 posted on 07/14/2005 7:52:33 AM PDT by Graves (`)
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"Other Orthodox Christians were martyred by the thousands for refusing to receive Holy Communion from the Arian clergy. Some things just never change."

Yeah, that was back in the days when Christians acted like Muslims on jihad. At least that much has changed.


20 posted on 07/14/2005 8:13:43 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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