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If anyone is interested.....could this be the roman empire we were waiting for?
http://www.icc.cp.int ^

Posted on 05/26/2005 5:46:35 AM PDT by stormyseas

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To: stormyseas

That's all I am saying....:)

/Serious switch ON/

You said it well.


201 posted on 05/28/2005 2:20:58 PM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: stormyseas

Yeah, it will come to pass eventually, hopefully sooner rather than later.

But, I just need something pretty darn clear before I begin to think it will happen soon. Too many people have thought it was coming before and been wrong.


202 posted on 05/28/2005 2:21:48 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: rwfromkansas

thank you...:) I know what you mean by that....:) I use to listen and think....I don't see it that way. Now I am being honest, I wish I could see it that way again just for a while. These are just my opinions mixed with facts, maybe they will bless someone in some way.


203 posted on 05/28/2005 2:26:30 PM PDT by stormyseas
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To: righttackle44

thank you...as you did....


204 posted on 05/28/2005 2:26:58 PM PDT by stormyseas
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To: ET(end tyranny)

The UN needs to be taken to task. Israel is the only member nation not allowed to rotate into a security council seat even though her enemies can. Israel aslo is the only member nation to not belong to a (not sure what they call it) regional group. They should be in the Middle East regional group but guess who has said they will not remain members if Israel is allowed into the Middle East group? If you guessed her enemies, then you would be right.

Israel has been trying to be admitted to the Asian group last I knew. For Israel's enemies to be able to prevent Israel from being allowed to join her proper group, JUST WHO IS RUNNING THINGS? The UN? Or Israel's enemies?


I missed this, the whole world is Israels enemy, as scripture says it will be, I guess that's the UN, because it is the world. All but America and she is the only one not standing for this Rome statute of the ICC, Bush didn't sign Clinton did. However powerful we know America is, so is the other 190 nations. Bad news. It looks like Israel and America right now, seemingly against the world or most of it. Understand the Rome Statute is a treaty, everyone must abide, but they won't scripture says that. I know the UN was not around then, but the church was, a city has to be built with the first stone. First the church, because God started (created everything) and then Satan will take the world.....so all this time he has been creating the one world government, for God's purpose. He didnt only use the catholics, he used the southern baptist....so on and so forth. Watch the news and watch the world, pray the jews leave the Gaza they are bound by the treaty to do so. Even though I know we should fight to keep them there, America will as long as she can do so. That I believe.


205 posted on 05/28/2005 2:53:06 PM PDT by stormyseas
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To: stormyseas
Anything that was changed was allowed by God.

So, G-d allowed deliberate mistranslations of the bible to occur? Is the bible inerrant or not?

206 posted on 05/28/2005 2:56:33 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny) (Pro 26:13 The sluggard saith: 'There is a pierced in the way; yea, a pierced is in the streets.')
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To: ET(end tyranny)

Why wouldn't he his basic truth is still there, then he made a means for us to discover it, finding the dead sea scrolls at a latter time, computers, catholic bishops that would tell what they find, access to older scriptures, mixed languages in all countries. Look at the difference from the 1997 or 1998 thompsons NIV, and translations from say KJV of 1611 or so. Just to see the difference. It hasn't changed so much, that you can't find irrefutable truth. However, there are still changes. I was making the point that satan works where he can using who he can. Not at any one in general just a statement.....:)


207 posted on 05/28/2005 3:07:54 PM PDT by stormyseas
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To: ET(end tyranny)

Also I do believe (and this is sad) it's just as easy for us to find the truth today as it was in say 1910, we have to look a bit harder for it, satan has more control now and makes it as hard as he can, this is what we were warned of. However God does make a way for us all.


208 posted on 05/28/2005 3:13:13 PM PDT by stormyseas
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To: ET(end tyranny)

If you might be interested....this has been a while but...http://k.t.rajasingam.tripod.com/ICC.htm


209 posted on 05/28/2005 3:17:33 PM PDT by stormyseas
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To: stormyseas
You still haven't shown where my #158 is in error. We already know that YHWH's times, seasons and at least one Commandment were changed. When YHWH tells us that His Torah is ETERNAL, I think He meant it. I also think He meant it when he said in Deuteronomy, to NOT add to His words.

For deliberate mistranslations to occur in the KJV, I have to wonder what else is wrong.

210 posted on 05/28/2005 3:29:25 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny) (Pro 26:13 The sluggard saith: 'There is a pierced in the way; yea, a pierced is in the streets.')
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To: ET(end tyranny)

hi I am sorry I tried to answer, I guess I misunderstood you referred back to it at 172 also right? Maybe I am not understanding the question for some reason exactly...:(

We already know that YHWH's times, seasons and at least one Commandment were changed. When YHWH tells us that His Torah is ETERNAL, I think He meant it. I also think He meant it when he said in Deuteronomy, to NOT add to His words.

Are you saying changed like in scripture? (the commandment) as far as times and seasons, no one can change those, not really change them, God controls the seasons.They can change anything they want in writing, or changed how?
I am with you there. I believe also the way you do. I didn't say they were changed for sure in the KJV, I am saying both translations are so different, one accuses the other of changes, however, I read the KJV, it's as close as I can find. I have just researched so much scripture and so many translations. Some say 1 John 5:7 was not in original transcripts.


211 posted on 05/28/2005 3:40:09 PM PDT by stormyseas
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To: stormyseas
Dan 2:21 And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:

Daniel 7:25 It would view God's Law as needing changes, and would attempt to make changes in that law by its own authority. Papal Rome did, in fact champion Sunday as a holy day instead of the seventh-day Sabbath ordained by YHWH in His law. Not only did it intend is succeeded.

AND HE, the Antichrist,SHALL BE DIVERSE (or different)

Compared with other horns the little horn was diverse, or different, it was "STOUT" or great. I think this is because it exercises more than political power. I think its a combined religious and political system.

This system would persecute "the saints of the Most High". Those whom papal Rome considered heretical faced civil punishment. History attests that millions were put to death under this religiopolitical system. Church historian David Schaff summed up papal Romes' persecuting activities in these words.

"Down to the very close of the Middle Ages, the pages of history were disfigured by decrees of popes and synods, confirming death as the penalty for heresy, and for persons supposed to be possessed with witchcraft. The great council of Constance, 1415, did not get away from the atmosphere and ordered heretics punished even by the flames. And the hall of Leo X 1520 condemning Luther cursed as heresy the Reformer's literal statement that the burning of heretics is contary to the will of the Spirit". History of the Christian church. Vol V part 1. p. 524.

212 posted on 05/28/2005 3:54:21 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny) (Pro 26:13 The sluggard saith: 'There is a pierced in the way; yea, a pierced is in the streets.')
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To: ET(end tyranny)

I am understanding...whew I have been here too long. The sabbath day was changed because the hebrew calander is not lunar and when we changed to solar we changed seasons. wow...thanks I am learning something...:) To change it on a calender I suppose they did...let me read more...:) I thought you were saying actually changed, like winter to summer ....duh!


213 posted on 05/28/2005 3:56:21 PM PDT by stormyseas
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To: Quix

"Thanks tons for your kind words. Do you have any discernment or insights in your spirit or even just subtle impressions on the above?"

Is discernment meant to be more than an understanding of how reading your posts have blessed me in my times of confusion?

My spiritual insights recognizes your boldness in witnessing for Jesus Christ, especially when you are mocked on this forum.

My not so subtle impression is the truth in your posts...and you have been an eternally patient teacher.

No Quix, I have not been given any 'insider information' regarding what our Lord has in store for you.

I only know you are a messenger of the Holy Spirit.













214 posted on 05/28/2005 3:58:46 PM PDT by Bennett46 (Please pray for TexasCowboy)
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To: stormyseas
Are you saying changed like in scripture?

Had you dealt with my 158 back when I asked you to, you probably wouldn't be so confused now. You're getting my posts intermingled now. :(

(the commandment) as far as times and seasons, no one can change those, not really change them, God controls the seasons.

Gee, tell me which Commandment deals with seasons.

Some say 1 John 5:7 was not in original transcripts.

That's right, it wasn't. The resurrection is missing, too.

215 posted on 05/28/2005 3:59:12 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny) (Pro 26:13 The sluggard saith: 'There is a pierced in the way; yea, a pierced is in the streets.')
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To: stormyseas
...duh!

Finally! :)

216 posted on 05/28/2005 4:01:42 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny) (Pro 26:13 The sluggard saith: 'There is a pierced in the way; yea, a pierced is in the streets.')
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To: ET(end tyranny)

I believe this I have seen some things the church has done. (I have another post here where I said something about it)However, Satan jumped right in to begin with and then he held hands with some members of all church's (denominations). I am not sure the catholic church will hold it together after Benedicts statement about the jews being theologicaly correct in not accepting Jesus, most catholics will not stand for theological change.
I still don't think it changes the fact that the church does not have the power the ICC has. It is still a one world justice system a world kingdom because of the high court not because of the church, even if they did start it, and they probably did, there weren't many "church's then" It is not where it begins, it is where it will end that counts now, and who winds up with the power, and who rules the world, the head judge for the ICC has been there since 1998 seeing it into power, he is now the head judge.


217 posted on 05/28/2005 4:03:47 PM PDT by stormyseas
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To: ET(end tyranny)

hey be nice!!!!!


218 posted on 05/28/2005 4:04:07 PM PDT by stormyseas
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To: ET(end tyranny)

I have to get off of here...I have never sat in front of this thing this long....my head my head. May Yahweh bless you richly. Thanks for everything....:)


219 posted on 05/28/2005 4:11:10 PM PDT by stormyseas
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To: stormyseas

You might be interested in a book called 'Secrets of Mount Sinai'. It deals with The oldest complete bible codex Sinaiticus.

That finding was that Mark, which was the oldest gospel, ended at verse 8 and that the additional 11 verses after verse 8 that indicated Jesus was physically resurrected were inserts. These verses were considered fake by the scribe who wrote this bible in the year 340AD. The scribes put three dots in the margins by verses they either knew or suspected as being not authentic. (Even today in Richard Latimore's contemporary translation these verse are marked off in square brackets).


220 posted on 05/28/2005 4:13:38 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny) (Pro 26:13 The sluggard saith: 'There is a pierced in the way; yea, a pierced is in the streets.')
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