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Interpretations of creation story vary
The Reporter ^ | 15 January 2005 | Karen Nolan

Posted on 01/15/2005 3:57:44 PM PST by Catholic54321

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To: RaceBannon

Read Gen 2:4. It can only be translated as day meaning an indefinite period of time. It refers back to the days of creation. It is thought poetry with the first few verses of Gen 1 (synthetic parallelism).

Any interpretation of yom as a 24 hr day makes the Bible internally inconsistant. This cannot be.


101 posted on 01/21/2005 5:30:11 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: shubi

Umm, I already said that Gen 2:4 was not a literal day, it is the days of Genesis 1 that this is about.

Please read more carefully.


102 posted on 01/21/2005 5:36:21 PM PST by RaceBannon (((awaiting new tag line)))
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To: RaceBannon

I am a Hebrew linguist. Gen 2:4 refers back to all the periods (yoms) of Gen 1. I have studied these passages in the Hebrew for almost 20 years. I don't think they can be read any more carefully than that.

Reading in the English alone, just doesn't allow for good interpretation.


103 posted on 01/21/2005 5:40:28 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: shubi
Yet they accuse objective analysis of data by scientist to be "interpretation".

I will acknowledge that there are certain passages of Scripture that are obscure. However, we have access to the entire revealed Word of God for study. But we may only have 1% of the knowledge contained in the universe. Humble scientists are the only honest scientists.

1. We don't know if there is extraterrestrial life in our universe.
2. We don't have a detailed understanding of quantum physics.
3. We use such a small percentage of our brains capacity.
4. Predicting earthquakes, volcanoes, hurricane paths, weather...
5. Cures for the flu, colds, cancer, HIV, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, Muscular Sclerosis, Muscular Dystrophy, diabetes, balding and a host of debilitating viruses ...
6. Efficient transportation using other than oil reserves.

We aren't very impressive in the scientific realm. Only using 10% of our intellectual capacity has it's drawbacks, namely, discerning scientific truths with inadequate tools, and faulty preconceptions.

I am so glad God kept the Gospel so simple that even a child could understand.

104 posted on 01/22/2005 2:51:27 AM PST by bondserv (Sincerity with God is the most powerful instigator for change! † [Check out my profile page])
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To: bondserv

"I am so glad God kept the Gospel so simple that even a child could understand."


Genesis is not part of the Gospel.


105 posted on 01/22/2005 3:17:38 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: shubi

Then you should agree with me, that the word YOM in Genesis 1 which includes the modifiers evening and morning means a literal 24 hour day...which is what this is all about.


106 posted on 01/22/2005 4:33:23 AM PST by RaceBannon (((awaiting new tag line)))
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To: RaceBannon

Why? I have told you that Gen 2:4 defines the previous yom uses. The fact that no Sun existed eliminates any chance that the first three days are really 24 hrs.

There is no reason to believe that the simplistic creationist view of the text has any merit whatsoever.


107 posted on 01/22/2005 4:39:08 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: shubi
Genesis is not part of the Gospel.

Death is fundamental to the Gospel's efficacy. If sin didn't bring on death, there was no need for Christ to literally conquer death through His physical resurrection. The entire Jewish sacrificial system that was a typology of Jesus Christ, required shedding of blood for the covering of sin.

Death was not part of the original creation.

Jesus Christ shed is sinless blood and therefore gave up his life unto death, because He is God, He was able to take up His life again from the dead so that, like Him, we can have eternal life.

As Paul clearly states, Jesus Christ's death and resurrection, overcame the penalty of death brought on by Adam's sin. If evolution was true, Jesus Christ would have had no reason to resurrect Himself because He could have become a spirit being and went straight to heaven.

Sin brought death into the world, and death needed conquering by the shedding of sinless blood. Jesus Christ allowed His life's blood to pour out for us. He had the power to lay down His life for His friends.

Getting back to the original creation.

Isa 11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

Isa 65:25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust [shall be] the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.

On death, shed blood and sin:

Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Lev 17:11 For the life of the flesh [is] in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it [is] the blood [that] maketh an atonement for the soul.

Mat 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Rom 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

Luk 24:39-40
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them [his] hands and [his] feet.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?

Jhn 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. (emphasis added in scripture text)

108 posted on 01/22/2005 10:08:30 AM PST by bondserv (Sincerity with God is the most powerful instigator for change! † [Check out my profile page])
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To: RaceBannon
I saw your picture. Face to a name.

Good to visually know you. :-)

109 posted on 01/22/2005 10:09:47 AM PST by bondserv (Sincerity with God is the most powerful instigator for change! † [Check out my profile page])
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To: shubi
I forgot a couple verses.

Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

110 posted on 01/22/2005 10:21:43 AM PST by bondserv (Sincerity with God is the most powerful instigator for change! † [Check out my profile page])
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To: bondserv

You were just a few verses short of the whole Bible.

I have access to about 40 or 50 different Bibles on my computer, but thank you anyway.

Genesis is still not a Gospel.


111 posted on 01/22/2005 11:49:46 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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