PROPHETIC SIGNS THAT WE ARE IN THE END TIMES [A good summary of SOME key evidences--QX]

Thanks much.

Much agree.

I do think Holy Spirit is the only one Who can bring us into that unity.

But woe be to us if we fail to cooperate at His leading.

I don't know how those naysayers who refuse to even believe Holy Spirit talks to believers in our era--how are they going to follow leading they refuse to hear?

more on #1421, entitled:

"The Five Angels of the Continents"
Dr. Samuel Doctorian
August 16,1998

Note that this man had the vision in 1998. A good two years before the 9/11 attacks. And yet he saw skyscrapers falling. A good five years before the recent Quake and Tsunamis.

They say to test Words against Scripture and to pray about them. And, as is said in some circles, "if it comes to pass, it's from the Lord."

Well, if this one is from the Lord, the worst of it has not even happened yet. Better stay alert, watch and pray, no?

There are glorious events in the vision too. Here's a quote from the FIRST ANGEL:

'Then he looked at me and smiled and said," There shall be the greatest spiritual awakening - bondage will be broken. Barriers will be removed. And all over Asia - China - India - people will turn to Christ. In Australia there shall be tremendous revival." I heard the angel of Asia say, " It is the last harvest." Then as if the Lord were speaking, he said," I shall prepare My church for the return of Christ." '

DEAR ONES,

It boggles my mind that folks can read the Scriptures about such things and still believe that we are NOT in the Biblical End times. The frog being heated slowly in the kettle of water is happening with the SLAG [SLave tAG] computer ID chip implant but at increasing speed.

We were told initially that it would always be only VOLUNTARY. Now, ALREADY, we see, that is NOT true. The global government is waiting in the wings, itching to force it on every citizen on the planet. Satanic CONTROL and destruction is the goal.

God and walking closely to Him is the only security.

LUB,
Quix,

Sub-Dermal Tracking Chips to be Implanted in Homeless People from Pennsylvania to New York, from San Francisco to Bethlehem and Washington DC
UPI reports that, "Participating states will receive grants of $14 million to $58 million from the federal Projects for Assistance in Transition from Homelessness (PATH) program. A second phase of the project, scheduled to be completed in early 2005, will wirelessly transmit live information on the locations of homeless people to handheld computers running the operating system."

Also see:
A Novel of End Times Disclosure
No Kidding. Here Comes the Mark of the Beast
Prepping this Generation for Acceptance of 666
Biometric Standards for Global Beast System
Iris Scanning Begins for JFK Passengers
Uncle Sam Wants Your Data - All Year 'Round
Ridge Seeks Fingerprints on Passports

WIRING OUR HOMELESS

Logan's Run 2004

Mandatory sub-dermal tracking systems to be implanted in New York, San Francisco, Bethlehem, Pennsylvania and Washington DC's Homeless Populations.

By Laura Dawn Lewis

In the movie Logan's Run, all citizens are implanted with a tracking device, which follows their movements once activated. On the day of each person's thirtieth birthday, the tracking devices go off. Any citizen who fails to participate in Carousel, state sanctioned murder packaged as soul renewal and rebirth, is hunted down via this implant and killed by the Sandmen, the state's killing enforcement squad.

Though the Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) tags set to be tested and surgically implanted below the skin by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services in the homeless populations of New York, San Francisco, Washington DC and Bethlehem, Pennsylvania are not being used to insure killing as those in Logan's Run, they do turn the most vulnerable people in America into cattle, tagged and monitored like animals. Mandatory, compulsory and not a choice, the RFID tags are miniature radio transmitters the size of a matchstick inserted under the skin that enable police and government social programs to track and document the movements of homeless people electronically.

Positioned as "A rare opportunity to use advanced technology to meet society's dual objectives of better serving our homeless population while making our cities safer," by HRSA Administrator Betty James Duke, some may consider this government newspeak designed to quell the general population investigation into the fact that this is a clear violation of our Fourth Amendment right to be secure in our person. It brings up issues in the Fifth Amendment by depriving the homeless of the only thing they have, freedom and liberty. It allows the government to use private property, the body of each homeless person, for public use.

Implanting RFID's would not be an issue if the homeless chose to have this implant, freely without the sacrifice of services, agreeing to all restrictions, including the ability to be monitored and were paid or compensated for participation. Then it is a person's choice. It is a completely different issue when it is required or if a person of diminished capacity accepts it without understanding what he or she is doing. When this is the case, a person is used. The current presentation of this program shows it to be mandatory rather than choice.

How does one argue that the compulsory implanting of a radio chip under a person's skin is just? Sold to the American public as a necessary tool of public good, one cannot help but reflect on the common saying, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." Abject poverty becomes a societal sin, giving license to the government to monitor your every move. Poverty becomes the sole justification for electronic imprisonment. This is a deprivation of liberty. Making a person a monitored animal entrusts the government with full authority to use any information collected for research purposes or to round up and channel American citizens and non-citizens alike. The homeless RFID program is set to go into effect in five American cities now and possibly nationwide over the next several years.

WHAT EXACTLY ARE RFID'S?

United Press International reported April 3, 2004 that, "Participating states will receive grants of $14 million to $58 million from the federal Projects for Assistance in Transition from Homelessness (PATH) program, which was created under the McKinney Act to fund support services for the homeless. A second phase of the project, scheduled to be completed in early 2005, will wirelessly transmit live information on the locations of homeless people to handheld computers running the Windows CE operating system."

RFID's are currently used in commerce to track purchases, inventory and in some cases consumer behavior by transmitting information via a radio signal that can be picked up by any person with a receiver tuned to that frequency. Ford Motor Company implants RFID's in all tires since 2001 to quickly identify the tires during service. Selected toll roads in Canada use RFID's and Shell Oil implements them in their EasyPass® system. Future applications being implemented include United Kingdom's Marks & Spencer's department store's tagging of RFID's onto their clothing.

The European Central Bank is working to develop a hair-thin transmitter that can be imbedded in all Euros by 2005 to prevent, the agencies implementing the transmitters in the European currency state, laundering, black market transactions and bribery. In Tokyo, RFID's are being tested to monitor in-store reading habits at bookstores and newsstands, supposedly for market research. And the Western Beef Development Center in Canada implanted 292 calves to track the animals from growth through slaughter.

Like the cattle in Canada, the HRSA proposes implanting RFID's in homeless people to better track them, for his or her own good of course. The general reaction of most Americans in this age of transparent civil liberties coagulate around the idea that if this makes us "safer" the infringement remains just.

TARGET SOCIETY'S WEAKEST FIRST:

In Nazi Germany, Hitler first went after society's most vulnerable, the mentally ill, homosexuals and handicap. The mentally ill, loose in society often caused problems and can be a danger to others and themselves through no fault of their own. To his "Great society", they were as much of an embarrassment as an inconvenience. Convincing the German people their safety would be greatly enhanced if these problem people were removed from society, his policies of containment and execution began. Soon Catholics, gypsies, communists, Poles and Jews would find themselves targets.

How he soothed the German society into compliance illustrates classic conditioning. Hitler tested the waters on policies, acclimating the population slowly toward acceptance, beginning with the smallest, least able to defend itself portions of society, the mentally ill. Ironically, the majority of America's homeless suffer from mental illness, handicaps or addiction. Far more concerning is the fact that thirty-six percent of homeless people are families with children under the age of eighteen.

Reading through the escalation of persecution in Nazi Germany, correlations with the United States since September 11th are evident. Fear consistently used as the reason for all policies blinds Americans as we lay down our freedoms for the perceived safety of our government guardian. From this blind trust, the Patriot Act, CAPPS II, HR 3077 and the latest craziness once thought unthinkable, The Republican National Committee's pressure on the Federal Election Commission ("FEC"). The Republican National Committee is calling for new rules to financially punish non-profit organizations that dare to communicate with the public critically of President Bush or members of Congress. Also unthinkable, now we want to brand people electronically.

Prior to September 11th, this idea would be unconscionable. It's time we stopped using September 11th as an excuse for everything. Each of us has a greater chance of being hit by lightning than killed by a terrorist. Nearly 100,000 Americans died last year from prescription mix-ups, over 400,000 from tobacco related illness. Contrast that with the total number of civilian casualties by terrorists in the United States from January 1, 2002 through today: Zero.

FOR OUR SAFETY AS A NATION?

Hitler tattooed those he wished to track. Rather than use sub-dermal ink, America uses sub-dermal electronics to categorize, tag and track our homeless, against their will, rationalizing for their protection and society's protection. Who will be the next group requiring monitoring? Will we implant RFID's into convicted shoplifters who have served their time so that security can monitor them when they enter a store?

What about deadbeat dads and moms who fail to pay child support? Shouldn't they too be monitored? Their lack of payment places children at risk and creates situations that may cause children to become criminals Consider it a pre-emptive strike against possible future activity. While we're at it, under the guise of protection from abduction or getting lost, shouldn't an RFID be inserted under every newborn's skin? Doesn't that make you feel safer?

What about people collecting social security, unemployment or welfare? Shouldn't they be monitored to make sure they do not abuse the programs our tax dollars pay for? What about the criminal who is released? Sure they've done their time, but society is safer if the police and parole officer always know where they are. Don't forget every person with a DUI, (Driving Under the Influence). Think of how many lives could be saved if every person convicted of a DUI was tracked by the local police!

Then we have our War on Terror. All of the Arabs in this country, Christian or Muslim could at some point become rebellious to the way we treat them and ridicule their culture, faiths and traditions. We brand all as potential terrorists with our self-righteous callousness, therefore for the safety of Americans shouldn't all Arabs be tagged to prevent terrorism? While were at it, why not implant and tag every Hispanic American so we can easily identify who is here illegally? Or every African American who grows up in the hood since statistics show many end up dead or in jails?

CONCLUSION

It starts with the homeless, where does it end? In the movie Logan's Run, freedom prevails. Two people escape the monitoring systems and in turn free the entire society, finding themselves in an ancient ruin of Washington DC. Logan's Run takes place in the USA, the ultimate irony. This movie is supposed to be science fiction, not a prelude to reality.

Where does it end, America? Eventually each and every one of us will fall under some category that must be monitored for our own or society's protection whether due to circumstance of life, such as unemployment, illness, old age or bad choices. Is this freedom? Is this what we fight for? If we allow our government to exploit the most vulnerable, the homeless and mentally ill in our society as implanting tracking systems within a person's skin does, it is only a matter of time before they find an excuse to implant us all.

Epilogue

An interesting footnote to all this, now that this story is leaking ever so slowly, DHHS representatives amended their statements to press this will be voluntary. Nobody will go on the record. Statements are taken under anonymity and "off the record". We've been unable to confirm either way.

But here is something to think about. If it is voluntary, why implant the transmitter under the skin? Wouldn't it be more voluntary if the homeless who choose to be monitored have a bracelet that can be removed when he decides he no longer cares to participate? It certainly would cost less. And if it is voluntary, who's representing the homeless to make sure each understands what he is agreeing to? If one chooses not to participate, what do they forgo? These questions as of yet do not have answers. Perhaps in time they will.

In the mean time, many in the government are pushing for a national database that cannot be altered. Don't be surprised if one day in order to get a drivers license, a job, (see article on Mexico below), social security card or even gain admittance to a hospital, subdermal identification is required. It will be sold as "good for you," but anything that allows the government to track you, monitor you or obtain information about you isn't good for you. It is good for them. And is this really what we call freedom?

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Chip Implanted in Mexico Judicial Workers

Jul 14, 2004 5:30 PM (ET)

By WILL WEISSERT

MEXICO CITY (AP) - Security has reached the subcutaneous level for Mexico's attorney general and at least 160 people in his office - they have been implanted with microchips that get them access to secure areas of their headquarters.

It's a pioneering application of a technology that is widely used in animals but not in humans.

Mexico's top federal prosecutors and investigators began receiving chip implants in their arms in November in order to get access to restricted areas inside the attorney general's headquarters, said Antonio Aceves, general director of Solusat, the company that distributes the microchips in Mexico.

Attorney General Rafael Macedo de la Concha and 160 of his employees were implanted at a cost to taxpayers of $150 for each rice grain-sized chip. FULL STORY

http://www.raidersnewsupdate.com/lead-story13.htm

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I can appreciate how it might come across to you that way.

Didn't to me.

Perhaps because I'd already had some of the same impressions, sensings, convictions.

Thanks for your kind response.

But we have selfprofessed quake experts hereon who insist that nothing is out of average etc. etc. etc. yada yada yada.

Yet, there was well water in Virginia rising very markedly in response to the Sumatra quake--though the experts said such far reaching effects were nonsense, if not impossible.

And, then came the news again from professional geologists as did the well water news--that the earth had risen centimteters on the far side of the globe from the quake. Again, FREEPER experts insisted shortly after the quake that significant far reaching effects were nonsense, if not impossible.

When I challenged one of the most vocal experts on FR about such phenomena recently reported--he remained persistently silent. I guess he doesn't have any viable response.

Yes, Amen.

The Lord God will never want unity at the cost of unwillingness to speak the truth. The end times are not the time to water down the doctrines of holiness and obedience. That said, I'll do my job here as long as necessary - but as the song says "It sure won't break my heart to say goodbye!"

Well said. And, I agree.

But majoring in minors and minoring in majors has to stop for all who truly Love God.

And His Spirit is the only One who can make it stop.

This business of building personal kingdoms based on pet petty personal interpretations is a stench.

THX.

Now to what I was chewing on for a day... Consider what we are REALLY arguing about; What prompts God to end the age of Grace and begin the age of judgment? Is it the failure of His own children? or is it the sin of the Godless? When does God decide He has had enough, and begins the great tribulation? Of course nobody knows when, but we should know why... because He has done it before. Who is the judgment against? The saved or the lost? I submit that the judgment is against the lost... for His own children escape judgment through the Blood Of Christ.

What prompts God to end this dispensation is when the Body of Christ is complete.

Then, the Church, the Bride of Christ will be called home.

As for the days moving toward that direction 1Tim.4 and 2Tim.3 are pretty clear that the apostasy will get worse.

Unbelievers will have a chance for salvation in the Tribulation so God has not given up on them.

It will be much harder for those who have heard the Gospel and have rejected it now to repent afterward due to a strong declusion coming upon them.

The outward church is getting colder, placing it's emphasis on gimmicks and watered down theology.

The great crises that we are witnessing are not having any lasting effect on people changing their lives.

Good morning, Ihave been doing some reading on this subjject and I believe that upon the installation of this chip it is supposed to leave a boyle.

When were all the souls created, all those to be born of woman, you know that scripture where some claim it means to be born "again"?

Are you talking about this scripture?

John 3:3 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

3Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

sorry for the double post, also I know that revelations is very fascinating and at the same time scary. If you are ready be happy that this day is coming. If you are not ready, you need to get ready.

That is the scripture.

again = from above. Where does the soul come from at conception?

"sorry for the double post, also I know that revelations is very fascinating and at the same time scary. If you are ready be happy that this day is coming. If you are not ready, you need to get ready."

No problem.

Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21 all three tell us what will be going on as signs of Christ's return. Seems we are nearing that time, yet we cannot know the day until some of the events that have not happened yet take place.

There are a multitude of emotions as events unfold, especially when considered that Christ said "I have foretold you all things", so the answers are there and yet to fully comprehend in the flesh is not possible.

Good question, I think I know but I am still looking.

According to what Jeremiah was told in Jeremiah 1:5 "Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations."

Romans 9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of Him That calleth;)

12 It was said unto her, "The elder shall serve the younger,"

13 As it is written "Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated."

Hebrews 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, He also Himself likewise took part of the same; that through death He might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

16 For verily He took not on Him the nature of angels; but He took on Him the seed of Abraham.

Sounds like the soul has a history before being placed into the womb at conception.

Try this link http://bible.gospelcom.net/. I just sent them the question.

Sounds like they come from heaven