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Posted on 03/10/2004 9:37:27 PM PST by malakhi
Reading comprehension really isn't yourall's strong point. As I posted to HarleyD, it really would serve you well to actually believe that Arminians actually hold the beliefs which they purport to hold. We don't get to our churches, close the doors, shut the windows and then say "Hey the Calvinists can't see us. Now let's earn our salvation. Whoo hoo!" And until you take the Arminian position at face value (which I don't suspect will happen anytime soon), you will continue tilting at windmills. But it is an amusing spectacle.
Lets look at your definition . You daughter did not choose to be born, she did not chose her birthday and she did not choose the "gift" . What she did was open something that was already hers .
Well, if she chose not to open the gift, it might have been meant for her, but it's not going to do her a whole lotta good sitting there in the wrapping paper is it? And eventually, I'm gonna take it back to the store and put an Xbox on layaway. But that's because I'm not righteous. And was the gift already hers from the foundation of the world?
So the minute you say that man must do something to get that grace it is no longer grace. It is a wage due for a wise decision
Could you post Scripture for this? It helps clarify where you're coming from. Specifically, a Scripture which says that receiving the gift of grace is a work and as such does not contribute to salvation. Any other Scriptures would not adequately address my position.
A more passive-agressive approach seems to be favored. The "plain-speaking" retort is not allowed, apparently.
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