[jwalsh07]

Martinez started the whole thing. He threw at Garcia and then told him by pointing that the next one was going in his ear. Throwing an old man to the ground is not called for period. Zimmer couldn't hurt him if had a running start, two good legs and 2x4.

[Dog]

Nobody got tossed????

[Akira]

Granted, it looks pathetic to see Pedro throw Zimmer to the ground, but Zimmer charged him. I wouldn't let an old man get a free shot at me just because he's old. Pedro probably could have simply sidestepped him, but oh well.

Clemens is mean, but Pedro's just a punk.