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[Israeli Airforce] Pilot who bombed 'Liberty' talks to 'Post
Jerusalem Post ^ | Oct. 10, 2003 | ARIEH O'SULLIVAN

Posted on 10/10/2003 9:29:50 AM PDT by yonif

An Israeli pilot who mistakenly attacked the American intelligence ship USS Liberty during the 1967 Six Day War said they were lucky he had no bombs – otherwise he would have sunk her.

"There was a mistake. Mistakes happen. As far as I know, the mistake was of the USS Liberty being there in the first place," said Brig.-Gen. (res.) Yiftah Spector.

After 36 years Spector, who this week was dismissed by the IAF for signing the pilots' refusal letter protesting the policy of targeted killings, agreed to speak to a reporter for the first time on his role in the attack on the Liberty, an American spy ship strafed on the fourth day of the war.

Flying a Mirage III fighter jet code named "Kursa" or couch, Spector was the first pilot to reach the ship, which was about 20 nautical miles west of Gaza. He had been on an air-to-air mission and was not loaded with bombs.

Spector, now 63, went on to become a triple ace, shooting down 15 enemy aircraft, and take part in the 1981 raid on the Iraqi nuclear reactor, earning himself a place in the pantheon of Israeli fly boys. This week he ended a 20-year stint teaching new generations of pilots.

Spector had always refused to discuss the attack on the USS Liberty, which killed 34 US sailors and wounded 172, or even be revealed as the pilot who led the attack on her. Until now.

"I did not fire on the Liberty as a human target. I was sent to attack a sailing vessel. This ship was on an escape route from the El Arish area, which at that same moment had heavy smoke rising from it," Spector said.

"It was thought to be an Egyptian vessel. This ship positively did not have any symbol or flag that I could see. What I was concerned with was that it was not one of ours. I looked for the symbol of our navy, which was a large white cross on its deck," he told The Jerusalem Post. "This was not there, so it wasn't one of ours."

The concern of the IAF was that Spector and his wingman, who had been diverted from the Suez Canal, would strike one of the Israel Navy ships in pursuit of the vessel, which was assumed to be Egyptian. IAF archival recordings of the pilots' radio transmission of the actual attack obtained by the Post show that Spector was specifically requested to verify that the ship was a military vessel and not Israeli.

According to the June 8, 1967, radio transmission, Spector said: "I can't identify it but in any case it's a military ship."

Speaking of the event 36 years later may have caused Spector to mix what he remembered with what he may have read and his testimony does not always match archival facts.

"I circled it twice and it did not fire on me. My assumption was that it was likely to open fire at me and nevertheless I slowed down and I looked and there was positively no flag. Just to make sure I photographed it," said Spector, who retired from active duty as a brigadier-general in 1984.

Experts intimately acquainted with the incident said that the only photos Spector took were from his gun-sight camera during his strafing run. Regardless of whether the 455-foot ship bristling with eavesdropping antennas flew a US flag, which it evidently did from its starboard halyard, that banner was shot off in Spector's first strafing pass.

"I was told on the radio that it was an Egyptian ship off the Gaza coast. Hit it. The luck of the ship was that I was armed only with light ammunition [30mm] against aircraft. If I had had a bomb it would be sitting on the bottom today like the Titanic. I promise you," Spector said.

The 30mm rounds were armor piercing, which to this day led Liberty survivors to believe they had been under rocket attack. Spector's first pass ignited a fire which caused the ship to billow black smoke. Ironically, Spector transmitted he suspected the Liberty was putting out smoke to deliberately mask itself.

"Every order is given by commanders and the last one to receive it has to decide whether he will pull the trigger or not. In this instance I was the fighter. I checked what I had to check [i.e. that it was a military ship and not one of ours] and pulled the trigger," Spector said.

"The crew should be thankful for their luck [that I was on an air-to-air mission and did not have any bombs]. It is a pity we attacked. I'm sorry for poor Capt. (William Loren) McGonagle, who was wounded in the leg and the other guys who were killed and wounded."

"I'm sorry for the mistake. Years later my mates dropped flowers on the site where the ship was attacked," Spector said. "I'm the last guy who has a problem with admitting mistakes and asking for forgiveness. There was a mistake, but it wasn't my mistake."

He added he remains baffled that the conspiracy theories live on that Israel deliberately attacked the US intelligence ship. He suggested it might be due to anti-Semitism, or anti-Israeli sentiments.

"I know that after the war one of the first things that was done was the establishment of a [US] senator's inquiry. I know this personally, because I was called upon to testify before it. They came to the country and I was questioned. I told them what I told you just now – that there was a mistake. I am sorry for the mistake. In war mistakes happen," Spector said.

He said that he had never in the past 36 years ever met with any of the Liberty survivors, but has no qualms about doing so now.

"They must understand that a mistake was made here," Spector said. "The fool is one who wanders about in the dark in dangerous places, so they should not come with any complaints."


TOPICS: Egypt; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1967; accident; bloodlibel; egypt; fogofwar; israel; militaryhistory; mistake; sixdaywar; ussliberty; yiftachspector
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To: BabsC
His religion is irrelevent. His blaming the victims act is not however. Mistake or not, he and his budies launched an attack on US forces that ended with many deaths. He could at least sound remorseful rather than strident.
21 posted on 10/10/2003 10:00:07 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: SpaceBar
What drives the conspiracy stuff (and the USS Liberty sailors who are convinced it was a deliberate attack) is the absolute terror that people have of randomness, and how uncomfortable it makes people feel that terrible things can happen without a larger meaning or purpose behind it.

People like to believe that when something terrible happens there was some great evil conspiracy behind it; it gives the loss more meaning and is strangely comforting.

Which is why the idea that the attack was simply a series of mistakes compounded by bad luck (as seems obvious to me) is so revolting to a lot of people.
22 posted on 10/10/2003 10:02:34 AM PDT by John H K
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
What Arab navy had a ship that would look like the Liberty?

That's an intersting question. Equally interesting is why you think a fighter-pilot would know the answer, before or after being ordered to attack, as is claimed.

23 posted on 10/10/2003 10:06:34 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
I have trouble with pilots who can't distinguish antennae from cannon or missile launchers. What Arab navy had a ship that would look like the Liberty? I can’t explain Israel’s motives. Only they know what they were thinking, but it seems that the incident was more than a simple mistake.

Accurate identification of things from the air is just one of those things that seems theoretically easy, but in practice is nearly impossible.

The idea of telling "cannon" or "missle launchers" from "antennas" from an aircraft traveling 400+ mph, no matter how low it is, is simply laughably impossible.

There's an incredibly long history of egregious errors in identification by pilots dating back to WWI.

US Navy ships were attacked by US Navy and Air Corps aircraft in World War II. Destroyers were identified as Battleships, cargo vessels or tankers as aircraft carriers.

And you're upset that the IAF pilots weren't able to accurately view precise details of small pieces of equipment on the Liberty, or spend hours carefully studying Jane's Fighting Ships to determine what the Liberty was?

Heck, I remember a thread on a friendly fire incident last week where a USMC Vietnam vet FReeper recounted incidents where they were repeatedly attacked by USAF aircraft for extended periods of time, despite frantic use of flares, radio call-offs, etc.

This is just one of those things where people will refuse to "get it."

24 posted on 10/10/2003 10:08:39 AM PDT by John H K
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To: skeeter
Anyone can read up on this incident if you try hard enough. This attack went on for 45 minutes and an American sub was close by, observing but ordered not to say anything then or since.

One consistant story of WHY was that the "Liberty" had discovered the Isrealis were killing 100s of Egyptain POWs on the beach and had to be silenced.

The U.S. was concerned that Russia was going to get into it and the Isreali airforce would have been history if we didn't start WWIII to save our investments.
25 posted on 10/10/2003 10:12:23 AM PDT by flicker
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To: BabsC
Or is it just that the Jews were on the delivery end of this mistake and that makes it a conspiracy?

And how is the logic of this statement any different than saying 'Criticism of an African-American is automatically racist'? Expressing doubt about the official Liberty story is not anti-Semitism.

26 posted on 10/10/2003 10:37:04 AM PDT by AzSteven
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To: FreePaul
"There was a mistake. Mistakes happen. As far as I know, the mistake was of the USS Liberty being there in the first place," said Brig.-Gen. (res.) Yiftah Spector.


They are not saying it was THEIR mistake.
27 posted on 10/10/2003 10:38:40 AM PDT by steplock (www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
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To: KantianBurke
Mistake or not, he and his budies launched an attack on US forces that ended with many deaths. He could at least sound remorseful rather than strident.

Rather like we did with the Brits and the Canadians? Hmmmm....?

28 posted on 10/10/2003 10:42:39 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: flicker
Why didn't the US government condemn Israel then?
29 posted on 10/10/2003 10:44:08 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: A+Bert
Pinging A+Bert

(Somebody had to do it!)
30 posted on 10/10/2003 10:47:05 AM PDT by Incorrigible
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To: Jackie222

At your service!

31 posted on 10/10/2003 10:48:51 AM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: AppyPappy; yonif
What everyone seems to be forgetting is that this was 36 years ago. Levi Eshkol, Israel's Prime Minister at the time, is dead. Golda Meir, his foreign minister, is dead. Moshe Dayan, his defense minister, is dead. They are all long dead.

I believe the attack on the Liberty was a horrible mistake from all I have read. Whether it was or it wasn't has to be weighed against the undeniable fact that Israel has been a loyal, constant ally of the United States ever since. President Nixon thought enough of Israel to do everything and anything he could short of sending troops to insure that Israel survived and, indeed, won the Yom Kippur war in 1973.

The United States once went to war with Japan, right? Now Japan is a staunch and trusted ally. Things change, times change, and 36 years of history since the Liberty should be enough to prove to anyone that Israel is a friend of the United States.

I'm sorry yonif chose to post this. The Liberty is used as an excuse by Israel bashers on a regular basis. Nothing new can come out of these discussions.
32 posted on 10/10/2003 10:54:11 AM PDT by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know" -Klaus Schulze)
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
I said the guy was arrogant, not that he could not have made a mistake.
34 posted on 10/10/2003 11:00:14 AM PDT by wardaddy (The Lizard King it was.....)
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To: harrowup
There was no conspiracy. Israeli commanders made a decision to attack everything that was of non-Israeli military value. They knew damn well Liberty was there.

Why didn't they sink it?

35 posted on 10/10/2003 11:10:52 AM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
What Arab navy had a ship that would look like the Liberty?

In 1967, Egypt was at war with Israel. The territory from where the Liberty was at was being bombarded. The Liberty was thought to be the Egyptian ship doing that. Israel was told no US ships were in the area.

36 posted on 10/10/2003 11:12:39 AM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: anotherview
I'm sorry yonif chose to post this. The Liberty is used as an excuse by Israel bashers on a regular basis. Nothing new can come out of these discussions.

I simply posted this because it was a first, I have ever read, of a former pilot who took part in that mistaken attack giving an interview.

37 posted on 10/10/2003 11:14:57 AM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: yonif
I understand the interest in the article. I just don't like the unintended consequences on this board. We now have a bash-Sharon piece from Ha'aretz posted too.
38 posted on 10/10/2003 11:16:36 AM PDT by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know" -Klaus Schulze)
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To: anotherview
Really? Can you provide the link?
39 posted on 10/10/2003 11:19:28 AM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: yonif
Why didn't they sink it?

"There was a mistake. Mistakes happen."

40 posted on 10/10/2003 11:32:06 AM PDT by Romulus
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