Indians Don't Need Columbus

BadEagle.com ^ | 10-9-03 | David Yeagley

[Thorondir]

No, they didn't need him and they don't need us. They could still be in the stone age, as the europeans found them. They had not progressed in ten-thousand years.

Now before the public cryers get started, I have American indian blood on both sides of my family. I don't distain them, I just have the honesty to see that they had a dead stone age culture that was taking them nowhere. And I appreciate things like modern medicine, clean running hot and cold water, toohbrushes and written languages. Oh, and human sacrifice and cannibalism are not high on my wish list for the society I live in.

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[Harmless Teddy Bear]

Oh, and human sacrifice and cannibalism are not high on my wish list for the society I live in.

Not a lot of that in North America. Some, but not a lot.

There was a lot of it in South America though. Lot of it in the rest of the world too. Not in the Egyptian Culture though. I have always wondered about that.

[Thorondir]

Yep. Hey, that's right about the Egyptians. I had not thought about that.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

It is one of those little things that bug me because it doesn't fit. Most agricultural cultures have human sacrifice and then you have Egypt.

I have yet to hear a good explaination as to why.

[billb]

Columbus Day pretty much empties out the naiton's capitol, except for the some Native Americans and members of the Sons of Italy. The Native Americans try to deface the statue of Columbus at Union Station and the Italians protect it. Just good clean entertainment.

[Wilhelm Tell]

There was a lot of it in South America though. Lot of it in the rest of the world too. Not in the Egyptian Culture though. I have always wondered about that.

There was human sacrifice in parts of pre-Christian Europe, and then the intolerant Christians put a stop to it. We all know how the left idolizes "natural" pre-Christian societies and condemns anything of a Judeo-Christian influence. Every once in a while a European leader is able to throw off this Judeo-Christian influence and return people to a more "natural" way of existence. Adolf Hitler is a case in point -- he took savagery to a new level and introduced human sacrifice at such a scale that the ancient American warrior-priests could not have imagined it.

[waterstraat]

Go outside, look around, and see how many white people there are in this country,at our schools and traffic jams, and what things the white people have built: bridges, highways, trains, airplanes, military bases, jet fighters, hospitals, sky scrapers, tanks, guns, etc - indians living in teepees never ever had any chance at all. The end result of the white culture being predominent in this country was inevitable.

[waterstraat]

The end result of the white culture being predominent in this country was inevitable.

The indians from the west who took trips to visit Washington DC in the 1800's and saw all the white people and what they built, needed no more convincing as to who would rule this country.

[Brellium]

It is one of those little things that bug me because it doesn't fit. Most agricultural cultures have human sacrifice and then you have Egypt.

I have yet to hear a good explaination as to why.

Egyptian religion, they felt their bodies were taken to their new home with their gods, to eat the bodies would be sacraligous.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

Bump (to read later) and a ping.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

Like I said. It was real common in agricultural cultures in fact almost universal. Not as common in Hunter/Gather but still a lot of it went on. H/G’s did do cannibalism quite a bit. Both had the same motivation, Food.

Agricultural cultures wanted favorable weather for a good harvest. Hunter/Gather cultures wanted the strength to catch game

[Hugin]

Human sacrifice in primitive agrarian societies often had to do with bringing the rain. In Egypt they didn't need to rely on rain since the floods came every year. The preists just told them when it was time to plant, and the floods came. Just a hunch, but that might be why.

[weegee]

A lowly slave was an unfit meal for a god?

[Chad Fairbanks]

Oh, and human sacrifice and cannibalism are not high on my wish list for the society I live in.

Speak for yourself ;0)

[Chad Fairbanks]

Excellent analysis, Sir... much appreciated... Niawen

[pierrem15]

Sometimes the right answer is De Nile.

a) major agricultural surpluses from rich land and a variety of staple crops (not corn or potato mono-culture);

b)a wide variety of domesticated and edible animals (besides the turkey and the chihuahua).

Those pyramid builders needed a lot of food, including high-grade protein, and they didn't need to get it from eating each other.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

A lowly slave was an unfit meal for a god?

Never seemed to bother any of the other gods. War captives were prized for sacrifice.

And then for muchies afterwards.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

But they did have executions where the body was destroyed. And eating the body wasn't a part of it in many cultures. Greek, Roman, Carthaginian, Chalden, none of them ate the sacrifice. And nothing says that they have to be your people. In fact raiding was a common way to get a needed sacrifice.