Similarly, the Biblical words translated as "salvation" in English do not refer to "salvation" as understood in the Christianity-- as Judaism has no belief in original sin, and no belief in an eternal hellfire to be "saved from." Depending on the context, the quotes you use mean different things-- for example, Exodus 14:13 refers to Israel's literal and physical salvation from the yoke of Egyptian slavery (as many "salvation" quotes in the Bible do). Likewise, Hannah's "salvation" was from the stigma of being a barren woman, thanks to the miraculous birth of Samuel.
As I said before, I have no interest or desire to debate theology with you-- nor will I get dragged into a posting match where you trot out tired arguments I've heard a thousand times, and I have to spend hours painstakingly refuting them. I was merely trying to demonstrate the theological similarities between Judaism and Islam-- which are quite prevelant in the underlying faiths, despite the Wahabbi corruption of Islam that has taken hold in recent years.
The concept of salvation is the same though even if the context is different, we saved Iraqis from brutal dictatorship even as the Lord saves us from sin. What did David mean after sinning when he wrote, "return to me the joy of my salvation"?
The concepts of "atonement", of "substitutionary sacrifice" ("the Lord will provide the sacrifice" from the Abraham and Isaac episode), the concept of having to look to One for salvation (the statue of the serpent on the tree), are all in the Torah. You may claim these aren't part of Judaism, but in my opinion it is now a false Judaism that has broken the covenant and failed to listen to the prophets.
But you are right I don't read Hebrew and I'm sure there is much I could learn from you. But I have it on good assurances that there are ancient Rabbinical writings that predate Christ that do acknowledge these concepts in a Messianic role.
Would you mind looking at the Old Testament quotes in post 155 from Isaiah and Daniel and tell me how Judaism interprets them.
Apparently you speak for some but not all Jews on this matter. I found this on Jewish.com.
The Rabbinic tradition (those stories and ideas found in the Talmud and Midrashic works) are filled with different opinions about what will happen to people after death. Some rabbis believed that the souls of the righteous are rewarded and the souls of the wicked are punished. Some rabbis believed that the souls of the righteous will study Torah in the afterlife and be in God's presence. Some other rabbis believed that even the souls of the wicked are not perpetually punished, but that after some time, they too are allowed to enjoy the rewards of the righteous.
What's more, I found that that the Old Testament says a lot more about Hell than just those two verses.
It is mentoned in the Torah as a place of burning....Deuteronomy 32:22 - For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.
As a place of sorrow....2 Samuel 22:6 - The sorrows of hell compassed me about; the snares of death prevented me; Psalms 18:5 - The sorrows of hell compassed me about: the snares of death prevented me. Psalms 116:3 - The sorrows of death compassed me, and the pains of hell gat hold upon me: I found trouble and sorrow.
A place for the Wicked...Psalms 9:17 - The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. Psalms 55:15 - Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them. Proverbs 7:27 - Her (prostitute) house is the way to hell, going down to the chambers of death. Isaiah 28:15 - Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:
A place of destruction....Job 26:6 - Hell is naked before him, and destruction hath no covering. Proverbs 27:20 - Hell and destruction are never full; so the eyes of man are never satisfied.
And then of course that previous post from Isaiah and Daniel calls it "everlasting burnings" and "everlasting contempt".
I just don't see how Jews can miss this and apparently according to Jewish.com, not all Jews do.
Deuteronomy 32:22 - For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.
...because the last book in the Christian cannon, "Revelations", has the earth destroyed by fire. Turns out, once again, it says the same thing as the Torah.