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California Recall Live Thread

Posted on 10/07/2003 5:34:25 AM PDT by Sabertooth



Do it California. Post here.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: adiosdavis; bewaredemvotefraud; ccrm; militaryvote; presstitutes
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To: Sabertooth
I'm not so sure it's silly. I think it's significant that one of the largest sources of Tom's money was Indian Gambling interests. Sure, every politician takes money from special interests, but not $3 million.

I was frankly rather shocked to hear that Tom took that much from the Indians. I respected Tom, even if I didn't think he could win (I still don't) and was concerned about his inability to get along with his colleagues -- not a problem for his conservative principles, but perhaps a problem if he were governor. But on the basis that he was too conservative and not a team player, I didn't think he was a bad guy, just not the right guy right now.

However, I think the issue of Indian Gaming, as a special interest with tons of money to throw around, is a real potential, if not actual, corruption issue.

841 posted on 10/07/2003 1:42:17 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: Quilla
Please Lord, don't let Rita Cosby at Fox News announce final election results. Amen.

But ... but ... she's got SOURCES!

842 posted on 10/07/2003 1:43:03 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: montag813
And if their voters are sitting on their rear ends that may not make a difference. If Democrats think Arnold is going to win in a landslide, that throws all their calculations out of the window. That being said, people should pay close attention to the spin of the party talking heads. And their facial expressions. They'll tell you more than the exit polls will about the outcome tonight.
843 posted on 10/07/2003 1:43:06 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: sissyjane
Duf Sundheim doesn't look so happy on CNN
844 posted on 10/07/2003 1:43:45 PM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: sissyjane
Right after the commercial CNN is going to have both party chairmen on. Should be interesting. Also, Kelly Wallace a arnold campain headquarters says the campaign is optimistic,and talking about polls. Looks like good news. Watch the party talking heads for clues.

Please update us on that, if you can.

845 posted on 10/07/2003 1:45:04 PM PDT by veronica ("I just realised I have a perfect part for you in "Terminator 4"....)
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To: writmeister
Uh huh. From their lips to God's ears. But none of the Democrats seem happy. Gray Davis got a pitiful bunch of followers at his last campaign rally. Turnout at such events is a good barometer as to the political health of your candidate.
846 posted on 10/07/2003 1:45:10 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: rocklobster11
Duf's eyes are red. Either crying or getting high. any bets?
847 posted on 10/07/2003 1:45:17 PM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: GOPrincess
Hopefully my "Uh-oh, caught it!" experience and that of a couple others here was an aberration and it was a piece of cake for most voters, who hopefully also started right at the top left corner where they couldn't miss the important question. :)

Nope. I am a 30 year old software engineer (programming is a game of details) and I can't remember if I voted Yes on the recall or not. I can say for sure I voted for Arnie and what I did on the initiatives but for the life of me I can't rememebr if I voted Yes on the recall. I believe I did though, but the two sided optical ballot we used in San Bernadino County was weird.

848 posted on 10/07/2003 1:45:39 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: Tex_GOP_Cruz
I am sure everything will be fine. The thing reminded me of fine tuning a computer monitor (in how you go through the menus). I won't be seeing another until March. We are not using them for the recall.
849 posted on 10/07/2003 1:45:47 PM PDT by NathanR (California Si! Aztlan NO!)
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To: AFPhys
I should read the fine print more carefully... [picking self off the floor and removing right hand from left breast...]
850 posted on 10/07/2003 1:45:49 PM PDT by pgyanke (God doesn't compromise... and He didn't call us to either!)
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To: rocklobster11
Uh Oh. If he doesn't look happy, I think on the off chance Chris Matthews could be right. We'll see.
851 posted on 10/07/2003 1:46:13 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: rocklobster11

Saw Bill Press on PMSNBC earlier, he actually predicted victories for both YES on recall, YES on Arnold.


852 posted on 10/07/2003 1:46:23 PM PDT by stephydan
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To: rocklobster11
Let's hope its the latter. If its the former, forget about tonight; his facial expressions tell you the GOP's internal polls don't tell them its in the bag. Either that or he's a very good poker player.
853 posted on 10/07/2003 1:47:50 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
The crossfire guys didn't ask either of the party chairmans how they felt about the election. just a bunch of crap about the character issues. It was a complete waste of time
854 posted on 10/07/2003 1:49:12 PM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: stephydan
Bill Press IS a liberal. Strange when Democrats and conservatives exchange positions! This is the weirdest election we've ever seen!
855 posted on 10/07/2003 1:49:15 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: rocklobster11
Duf's eyes are red. Either crying or getting high. any bets?

My bet - Stoned out of his mind. He's literally begging in front of the camera. Hmmmm. The "other side" is very cheery. LOL

856 posted on 10/07/2003 1:49:18 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Lucifers lefties are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: goldstategop
If its the former, forget about tonight; his facial expressions tell you the GOP's internal polls don't tell them its in the bag.

And it will be McClintock's fault.

857 posted on 10/07/2003 1:49:19 PM PDT by veronica ("I just realised I have a perfect part for you in "Terminator 4"....)
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To: stephydan
Cnn to post first exit polls...according to Tucker carlson. Right after commercial
858 posted on 10/07/2003 1:49:37 PM PDT by sissyjane
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To: w1andsodidwe
>>>Well thank-you. I guess if I don't think exactly like you do, then I am not deserving to be a Republican or a conservative.

It would have been nice if before commenting, you read what I posted.

I gave you a thoughtful and rational explanation, defining politics values in America today. Instead of addressing those issues, you've chosen to make me the issue. I didn't create the current standards that are used in todays political environment. I did say to you, however, if you choose to create your own standards, fine, have at it.

The only people I drive off, are those who don't follow conservative principles and those who don't stick by Republican conviction found in the GOP platform.

859 posted on 10/07/2003 1:50:40 PM PDT by Reagan Man (The few, the proud, the conservatives.)
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To: goldstategop
What's the deal with Prop 53 anyway? I haven't heard much about it, but a cursory look at it makes it sound like a payoff to construction company/union interests.
860 posted on 10/07/2003 1:50:54 PM PDT by Timesink
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