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"And if you were told during that primary that if Tom were to win it, he'd have no chance against a democrat in the general election because a conservative can't win in California and only a socially liberal Republican could win,"

Hoverbug, I'd probably refute that 'electability' nonsense upfront:
Fact is, the moderates keep talking about how you need a moderate to 'win' in states like Cali or New Jersey. Not so!
Matt Fong and Bill Simon both got whupped in California, but fwiw, Bill Simon got whupped *less*, despite being a novice. Candidates have done more HARM by being too soft than as being straight out "here is what I am". I saw that in the Forrester 2002 campaign. Lautenberg licked him, yet Lautenberg was a weak candidate. he could have been taken out - a strong conservative could have done it. the model? Rick Santorum managed to win in Pennsylvania.

This recall election is a strange animal, yet despite the intense desire of so many to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory, a HUGE BLOW will befall the Democrats. Patronage, untrammelled funding of leftist organizations, a flood of bills making the fiscal situation worse, all could be stopped. Good thing Arnold is winning and not Davis. But let's be clear - if Arnold was pro 54 and more pro-life, his support would be IMHO just as strong.

despite the intense desire of so many to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory, a HUGE BLOW will befall the Democrats.

And wouldn't that be terrible for the Democrats! Instead of having the Democrats presiding over cutting heads off babies, gay liberation, and gun confiscation, the Republicans will be doing it.

I'd probably refute that 'electability' nonsense upfront:

If this election is any indication, you wouldn't be heard over the "He can't win" chant. ;-)

I saw that in the Forrester 2002 campaign. Lautenberg licked him, yet Lautenberg was a weak candidate. he could have been taken out - a strong conservative could have done it. the model? Rick Santorum managed to win in Pennsylvania.

I agree completely. I'm just afraid we're missing that opportunity here right now.

Thanks for the courteous back and forth!