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To: LPM1888
Is there a libertarian way to justify taxpayer-paid government schooling of children?

I like your style but disagree with your substance on the evidence to date. Heinlein is usually a very worthwhile read though he is often wrong on some morals and religion while being very right on a number of other things. Arnold is NO Heinlein.

If there were no public skewels, there would be no taxpayer-funded forum for proselytizing the children of others. If you and I will not agree on how my children and yours should be commonly taught with public money, it does not become easier when we include everyone else's kids and opinions. The answer is a strict wall of separation between school and state, is it not?

As to your last paragraph, don't you think Heinlein would agree that whether I provide my chikldren with "birth conrol options" or opportunity for "abortions" both against my Catholic Faith is my business, my wife's business and none of yours, just as I have no business taking over the raising of any kids of yours?

Do you have children? (none of my business or anyone else's here if you do. I ask only that you reflect on your situation) For some people, but not all, having children does change their minds on moral matters.

165 posted on 10/07/2003 5:18:17 AM PDT by BlackElk (Schwarzenegger is as Republican as Pete Wilson or George McGovern or Hillary!!!)
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To: BlackElk
Is there a libertarian way to justify taxpayer-paid government schooling of children?

I don't know of a libertarian way but I believe that taxpayer-paid government schooling of children is essential to ensure that all children have the opportunity for schooling.

Public schools are in desperate trouble today but doing away with them is not the solution.

I believe that the government should fund a program that would find the best teachers in the nation or the world for that matter. The program should also hire the best programmers away from the computer game industry. The programmers and educators should then be tasked with creating educational computer programs that would augment the teachers in our school systems.

This would be expensive but in the long run the payback to America in terms of increased productivity (and increased tax income) would more than repay the cost.

Obviously this would require the "Best of the Best" from both fields. Think of a Manhattan Project scope of program for educational software.

I like your style but disagree with your substance on the evidence to date. Heinlein is usually a very worthwhile read though he is often wrong on some morals and religion while being very right on a number of other things. Arnold is NO Heinlein.

I agree that Arnold is no Heinlein but who is? ( I never dreamed that I might need to learn to spell Swarz.)

If there were no public skewels, there would be no taxpayer-funded forum for proselytizing the children of others. If you and I will not agree on how my children and yours should be commonly taught with public money, it does not become easier when we include everyone else's kids and opinions. The answer is a strict wall of separation between school and state, is it not?

Not necessarily, there will always be different opinons but people should always have the option of placing there children in a private school or to provide private tutoring off school grounds and outside of school hours.

As to your last paragraph, don't you think Heinlein would agree that whether I provide my chikldren with "birth conrol options" or opportunity for "abortions" both against my Catholic Faith is my business, my wife's business and none of yours, just as I have no business taking over the raising of any kids of yours?

In general yes, with the exceptions that I stated earlier. Remember you don't own your children. You can and should give them guidance and instruction but in the end their life is their own.

Do you have children? (none of my business or anyone else's here if you do. I ask only that you reflect on your situation) For some people, but not all, having children does change their minds on moral matters.

Yes I do. Three grown children. The youngest is 19 and the oldest is 32. All three are happy productive adults.

The oldest is a mother of two, an attorney, is becoming involved in politics and she is Catholic.

The middle boy is 22 has his MS in Mathmatics and is working on his PHD in Physics. He is unmarried and hasn't expressed a religous affiliation. Hopefully someday before I pass on he will develop a warp drive.

The youngest boy is 19 and is a Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer. He works with me designing Automation Systems and Computer Networks. He is an Agnostic.

They are all extremely proficent with firearms and expert poker players. I am very proud of them all.

I raised all of them the way that I have described. All of the children had birth control, disease prevention methods, and the results of abortions and unplanned pregnancys explained to them at the age of eleven. All were provided condoms. My daughter asked her doctor to prescribe birth control pills for her at the age of thirteen. Her first child was born when my daughter was twenty-eight. None of the children ever had a STD or any unplanned pregnancys nor pregnant girl friends. I presume that some or all of them had sex while they were teenagers but I may be incorrect.

I tried to provide the children with the resources and exposure to various religons when they were young but the choice of religon was left to them.

I cannot perceive any change in my morals since I was a child.

172 posted on 10/07/2003 6:00:52 PM PDT by LPM1888 (Freedom begins when you tell Mrs Grundy to go fly a kite)
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