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Polish troops find new French missiles in Iraq
Rueters via Yahoo! ^ | Friday October 3 | Pawel Kozlowski

Posted on 10/03/2003 12:50:35 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket

WARSAW, Oct 3 (Reuters) - Polish troops in Iraq have found four French-built advanced anti-aircraft missiles which were built this year, a Polish Defence Ministry spokesman told Reuters on Friday.

France strongly denied having sold any such missiles to Iraq for nearly two decades, and said it was impossible that its newest missiles should turn up in Iraq.

"Polish troops discovered an ammunition depot on September 29 near the region of Hilla and there were four French-made Roland-type missiles," Defence Ministry spokesman Eugeniusz Mleczak said.

"It is not the first time Polish troops found ammunition in Iraq but to our surprise these missiles were produced in 2003."

The Roland anti-aircraft system is a short-range air defence missile in service with at least 10 countries, including France and Germany.

They are fired from a mobile launcher vehicle and defence experts say the missiles are highly effective against aircraft attacking at low and medium altitude.

Under a strict trade embargo imposed by the United Nations, Iraq was barred from importing arms after its invasion of Kuwait in 1990.

Among others, Russia, Britain and France all sold arms to Iraq in the 1970s and 1980s. In Iraq's arsenal were Soviet-built Scud missiles, British Chieftain tanks and French Mirage fighters.

But Iraq managed to circumvent the arms trade ban in the 1990s through shadowy deals with various arms traders and kept its military equipment functioning.

"NO MILITARY EXPORTS"

"Since July 1990, France has not authorised a single shipment of military equipment to Iraq," a French Foreign Ministry spokeswoman told Reuters. Similar accusations were made in the U.S. media in April, she said.

In 1980-81, 13 Roland-1 missile systems were shipped to Iraq and from 1983 to 1986, 100 Roland-2 missile systems. The Roland-3 has never been exported to Iraq, she said.

"It is not credible to say that the Roland missiles found a few days ago were produced in 2003 and delivered just before the Anglo-American intervention," the spokeswoman said.

"Let's be absolutely clear about this: no military exports to Iraq were licensed after July 1990."

It was unlikely that the missiles could be used 17-18 years after their delivery, she added.

Mleczak said Polish troops were notified about the missiles by a local Iraqi, who received a reward for the information.

"The ammunition depot was neutralised," said Mleczak. Polish television pictures showed missiles placed in a shallow trench and a huge explosion when the Poles blew up munitions at the site.

Since early September, Poland, a staunch supporter of the U.S.-led war in Iraq, has led a multinational force in one of four so-called stabilisation zones, in central Iraq.

In the run-up to the outbreak of the 2003 Iraq war, American and British combat pilots struck Iraqi anti-aircraft batteries repeatedly as they patrolled no-fly zones in the north and south of the country.

(Additional reporting by Jon Boyle in Paris)


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: embargo; france; frenchmissiles; frenchweaponsiraq; frogs; illegalweapons; iraq; missiles; oops; poland; roland1; roland2; roland3
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To: newcats
I'll admit, I didn't even see the line about the missiles being destroyed.

Polish television pictures showed missiles placed in a shallow trench and a huge explosion when the Poles blew up munitions at the site.

I hope the tv crew took some up close and personal pictures of the missiles.
101 posted on 10/03/2003 2:12:06 PM PDT by Republican Red
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To: newcats
"How very convient that they were destroyed before any of this could be determined.

"The ammunition depot was neutralised," said Mleczak. Polish television pictures showed missiles placed in a shallow trench and a huge explosion when the Poles blew up munitions at the site.

They were photographed and any missile expert could tell who made them. What did you want the Poles to do with them? Keep them around for Iraqis to sneak in and hammer on for salvage materials, as has happened before? A bomb went KABOOM! on the such last occasion, and naturally the Americans were blamed for letting the Iraqis blow themselves up.

102 posted on 10/03/2003 2:12:46 PM PDT by xJones
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To: OldFriend
Oh no! Not another time travel episode!
103 posted on 10/03/2003 2:12:59 PM PDT by xp38
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To: So Cal Rocket
Blankety-blank weasels...
104 posted on 10/03/2003 2:13:48 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: So Cal Rocket
Trouble with United Nations is it gives "cover" to France as a "civilized" nation. They are horrible money grubbing creeps.
105 posted on 10/03/2003 2:14:20 PM PDT by RISU
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To: mass55th
You know it's been a very bad laugh free week when "Up his sleevies!" is still making me chuckle.
106 posted on 10/03/2003 2:15:57 PM PDT by Republican Red
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To: So Cal Rocket
Chirac and de Villllliiiiippppannn er Dominick...............
dirtiest dirtballs on the planet!
107 posted on 10/03/2003 2:17:41 PM PDT by Doctor Don
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To: So Cal Rocket
time for Freedom Fries part 2
108 posted on 10/03/2003 2:21:47 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: So Cal Rocket
Dang! Do the Frogs put serial numbers on their products?
109 posted on 10/03/2003 2:22:23 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: So Cal Rocket
Newsmax picked the story up. Drudge hasn't yet though.

I heard the story on my local Atlanta radio news at about 3:30. I hope the NY Post does a new weasel cover. They raised the bar pretty high with the "Damsel in Distress" cover.


110 posted on 10/03/2003 2:23:33 PM PDT by Republican Red
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To: All

(From the flagspot web site.)

111 posted on 10/03/2003 2:27:03 PM PDT by Heatseeker
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To: Heatseeker

112 posted on 10/03/2003 2:32:26 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: mass55th
And be able to lie!!!!!
113 posted on 10/03/2003 2:51:26 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: So Cal Rocket; snippy_about_it
France strongly denied having sold any such missiles to Iraq for nearly two decades

LOL! france also denies they surrendered to the Nazis and didn't collaborate on shipping out Jews. They also claim there was a french resistance.

114 posted on 10/03/2003 2:51:38 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Stop looking at my tagline...QUIT IT!...MOM, TELL HIM TO QUIT IT!)
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To: ArrogantBustard
You can say that again :)
115 posted on 10/03/2003 2:54:56 PM PDT by swany
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To: seamole
The most damning part of the article for the French is the lack of accusation that any of their missiles actually succeeded in downing any coalition planes.

Hadn't thought of that, but it's so true. If they had downed our planes, they'd be quietly bragging about it, like Russia did with their anti-tank stuff.

116 posted on 10/03/2003 3:04:30 PM PDT by ellery
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To: newcats
They have to destroy arms that they find right away -- otherwise they'd have to spend a ton of time and effort protecting them. I'm sure it's well-documented with photos, etc.
117 posted on 10/03/2003 3:06:57 PM PDT by ellery
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To: So Cal Rocket
Hey Poland: Don't blow them up next time. Send them to the US.
118 posted on 10/03/2003 3:07:58 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Please become a monthly donor!!! Just $3 a month--you won't miss it, and will feel proud!)
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To: So Cal Rocket
March Dombrowski!
119 posted on 10/03/2003 3:11:08 PM PDT by Little Bill (No Rats, A.N.S.W.E.R (WWP) is a commie front!!!!,)
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To: newcats
The article does not say the evidence was destroyed before it could be inspected.

And no, I hate France (but not all French) with my eyes wide open.
120 posted on 10/03/2003 3:11:16 PM PDT by ellery
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