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McClintock Can't Win? Do the Math Again
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| October 1, 2003
| Rand Green
Posted on 10/03/2003 12:48:20 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: Consort
He will be a valuable asset in the Legislature for a GOP Governor.You don't know how things around here work. The Republican leaders in this state have already found someone to run against McClintock in the next primary. "Punish your enemies; reward your friends!" In fact, all conservatives will be targeted for destruction if Arnold wins. He has contempt for us conservatives.
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posted on
10/03/2003 2:00:00 PM PDT
by
Saundra Duffy
(For victory & freedom!!!)
To: Wheee The People
However, in the leadership and judgment area, Tom is seriously deficient.LOL!!! You prefer Schwarznkennedy's "judgment"?!! Now THAT'S funny!!! Go, McClintock!!
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posted on
10/03/2003 2:01:17 PM PDT
by
Saundra Duffy
(For victory & freedom!!!)
To: Saundra Duffy
Go, McClintock! www.helptom.com Good for you! Popularity contests are for the teenagers and elections are for the adults. If Mcclintock doesn't win, tell him to move to my state we here in Illinois will vote for him. We've been needing REAL Republicans like Tom in our state and it just makes me puzzled to see so many FReepers in Cali throwing away that opportunity.
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posted on
10/03/2003 2:02:22 PM PDT
by
m1-lightning
(- A charge to keep -)
To: My2Cents
When was the last time you voted for a Conservative regardless of the candidate's supposed chances of winning?
If you typically vote for moderates because they are 'electable' instead of Conservatives, doesn't that make you a Moderate, too?
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posted on
10/03/2003 2:02:34 PM PDT
by
Eagle Eye
(I'm a RINO. I'm far too conservative to be a real Republican.)
To: Republic Rocker
Losing with principle is dignified
Winning without principle is Arkancide
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posted on
10/03/2003 2:03:24 PM PDT
by
pgyanke
(God doesn't compromise... and He didn't call us to either!)
To: deport
Well, Davis is at work behind the scenes slashing and burning Arnold and apparently there's plenty of ammo. Meanwhile, Boostyourtaxes is looking pretty pathetic. If Boostyourtaxes drops out and tells everyone to vote NO on the recall and if Arnold continues to drop in favor, McClintock could still win. But come hell or high water, I'm supporting McClintock. I couldn't sleep at night otherwise.
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posted on
10/03/2003 2:04:20 PM PDT
by
Saundra Duffy
(For victory & freedom!!!)
To: deport
Given your numbers... if Tom were to "split" the vote down the middle with (R)nold...
THEY STILL BEAT BUSTABUDGET!
Vote your conscience... it's safe and it's called Democracy.
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posted on
10/03/2003 2:05:47 PM PDT
by
pgyanke
(God doesn't compromise... and He didn't call us to either!)
To: Wheee The People
In most areas, indeed Tom is the best candidate. However, in the leadership and judgment area, Tom is seriously deficient. Do you know him personally or have you based your opinion of him on the filtering of the press? Think about that...
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posted on
10/03/2003 2:07:57 PM PDT
by
pgyanke
(God doesn't compromise... and He didn't call us to either!)
To: Saundra Duffy
You don't know how things around here work.That's a sad excuse from Conservatives who allowed the Liberals to take over and dominate the state government. Why should anybody trust the Conservatives to straighten out their act? If Tom is going to be ousted by own party leadership, then why wasn't he smart enough to not put himself in such a position?
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posted on
10/03/2003 2:10:53 PM PDT
by
Consort
To: EggsAckley
Gee, thanks... I liked your last ones better ;-)
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posted on
10/03/2003 2:12:05 PM PDT
by
Tamzee
("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
To: Saundra Duffy
One can't help but admire your loyalty and energy directed toward McClintock's candidacy.
I have yet to note, though, where anyone here has indicated that they're moving from the Arnold column to the Tom column.
Is there any reason to think that you'll be more successful among the general California population than here?
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posted on
10/03/2003 2:12:08 PM PDT
by
Dog Gone
To: Saundra Duffy
I'd rather have Bustamante as gov than Arnold ANY DAY. Clearly I can't have a rational conversation with you after that statement.
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posted on
10/03/2003 2:16:56 PM PDT
by
finnman69
(!)
To: Saundra Duffy
The objective isn't to unite Republicans, it's to fix California. To do that, you need to unite Californians...uniting 35% of the population doesn't do squat.
I'm not an Arnold fan and didn't vote for him, but McClintock supporters need to get over this "Republican" worship. There is no such thing as Governor of Republican California. Frankly I like McClintock's ideas more than any other candidate's, but he shows NO ability to work with anyone in Sacramento. People may not like it, but it's a job requirement.
And lastly, all of this "compromising principles" nonsense that we hear from various posters on FR is just that...nonsense. Unless one is voting for oneself, it is impossible NOT to compromise some principle when voting because no two people think alike on every single issue. (E.g. how many conservatives are thrilled with the politically correct tax loophole for Indian gaming?)
Frankly, the most imporant principle when voting is to determine what is the best POSSIBLE outcome after taking everything into account. And that means everthing: fiscal, social policy, long term & short term affect on the state and its people, etc. I can understand how reasonable people come down on either side based on the PRIORITIZATION of their principles...Tom or Arnold...but the fact is that every single voter has compromised some principle.
To: pgyanke
Losing with principle is dignified Losing with principle is still losing.
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posted on
10/03/2003 2:18:10 PM PDT
by
finnman69
(!)
To: Saundra Duffy
"I'd rather have Bustamante as gov than Arnold ANY DAY. Bustamante would UNITE Republicans. Schwarznkennedy would DESTROY the CA Republican Party, just like Pete Wilson did." There, you've said it. Feel better? After a decade of Cruz, Republicans will indeed be united, in Nevada and points east, and my family will be with them. This isn't about the ideological purity of the Stupid Republican party, it's about keeping an avowed Socialist from occuping the Governor's office of the State of California.
Socialism has some strange allies in this state...
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posted on
10/03/2003 2:18:39 PM PDT
by
TommyUdo
(Cruz wins, I'm moving from CA to your State and voting a Straight Democratic ticket)
To: Saundra Duffy
I hope this isn't a duplicate posting. Go, McClintock! www.helptom.com FOR YOUR INFORMATION!! If you have not signed up for the walk tomorrow, you can go here , download the file and print off flyers. WALK YOUR OWN NEIGHBOR HOOD EVERYONE!!!! GO TOM GO....GRASSROOTS is ALIVE and WELL!!!!!
http://www.tommcclintock.com/resources/ac_flyer.pdf
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posted on
10/03/2003 2:18:43 PM PDT
by
pollywog
To: finnman69
LOL!
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posted on
10/03/2003 2:21:12 PM PDT
by
VU4G10
(Have You Forgotten?)
To: Saundra Duffy
I'd rather have Bustamante as gov than Arnold ANY DAY.No wonder the Democrats dominate California government.
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posted on
10/03/2003 2:24:37 PM PDT
by
Consort
To: Cousin Eddie
I can understand how reasonable people come down on either side based on the PRIORITIZATION of their principles...Tom or Arnold...but the fact is that every single voter has compromised some principle. Very well said.
Most people conduct some sort of balancing act in deciding whom to vote for, but others base it entirely on a single issue that is a veto-maker. There are several of those hot button issues, and those voters are willing to cast protest votes for candidates with no chance.
Others simply decide that they'll vote for the candidate closest to their own views and let the chips fall where they may.
I like to vote for the candidate closest to my views with a realistic shot of getting elected.
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posted on
10/03/2003 2:32:22 PM PDT
by
Dog Gone
To: Consort
Yes...it is no wonder.
Liberals within the Republican party have completely disgusted conservatives to the point at which they'd rather a Democrat win so that some semblance of a difference between the two parties might be maintained. It has taken decades, but RINOs have finally succeeded after decades of refusing conservatives a voice at the table.
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posted on
10/03/2003 2:33:15 PM PDT
by
Maelstrom
(To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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