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McClintock Can't Win? Do the Math Again
Perspicacity & Paradigms Online ^ | October 1, 2003 | Rand Green

Posted on 10/03/2003 12:48:20 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy

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To: Saundra Duffy
McClintock doesn't sling mud. He is above the fray.

Did he put you up to calling everyone who doesn't agree with you a RINO? Does he condone what you are doing? Are you mocking him by name-calling followed by "Go McClintock" in all your posts?

141 posted on 10/03/2003 4:27:40 PM PDT by Consort
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To: Saundra Duffy
I have been laughing my butt off all day long listening to the various "conservative" commentators doing flips and twists in an effort to bail the Terminator's sorry *SS out of all the crap that is surfacing about him.

Oh, that's alright though. He was a much better choice than Tom McClintock. In a pigs ass.

142 posted on 10/03/2003 4:28:45 PM PDT by fightu4it (conquest by immigration and subversion spells the end of US.)
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To: Saundra Duffy
For me, the prize is not the governorship per se but the solution to this state's fiscal crisis. The question is not who can win. In my mind both can win if one drops out. But what happens then? If McClintock (who mirrors my own philosophy) wins and tries to implement changes (cuts) to solve the crisis the Democraps in the legislature (Burton, et al) will play politics as usual and stonewall all of McClintocks reforms until his term is finished and then proclaim McClintock a failure since we haven't solved our problems. Another Democrap runs and wins....business as usual to the average voter. But if Arnold wins he comes to Sacramento as an outsider with the only creditials that matter...the support of a plurality of the people. And because of his celebrity status he can call a news conference anytime he feels like it and hold the 'craps heels to the public fire and implement the changes necessary to end this fiscal nightmare. He is enough of a fiscal conservative to accomplish this. Who cares what his social views are at this time? He certainly cannot singlehandedly stop abortion, command Federal dollars to pay for illegal services, etc. Plus he can use the 'craps opposition as an excuse for another term or two. And we conservatives must understand that in the absense of a dynamic leader such as Ronald Reagan we will more often than not have to be satisfied with having influence in the party as it's most dependable base and demand our fair share of issue support from the more moderate, and more electable, elements of our party. We were doomed to this role by the Senate Republicans who succomed to liberal chants of "extremist" and caved on impeaching Clinton. Now all they have to do is mention the word "extremist" and they all turn to jelly. Sad but true.
143 posted on 10/03/2003 4:30:28 PM PDT by vigilence
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To: fightu4it
Cursing is the crutch of a conversational cripple.

Please attempt to control yourself. If not for those who post on the board, then JimRob and his board preferences. Thank you.

144 posted on 10/03/2003 4:33:28 PM PDT by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: Saundra Duffy
You get bonus points for tenaciousness, Sandra.

Your efforts here, suffering the slings & arrows, etc. on TM's behalf are much appreciated by many of us and will be remembered regardless of what happens on Tuesday. Thanks!

145 posted on 10/03/2003 4:41:25 PM PDT by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: skeeter
Yes, 100% for tenaciousness; 5% for salesmanship.

146 posted on 10/03/2003 4:46:41 PM PDT by Consort
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To: skeeter
"suffering the slings & arrows"

Not to mention tossing a few. I also appreciate her zeal but think we're doing Ronaldus Magnus a huge disservice by attacking a fellow Republican and his supporters who also want to help out a state that's been so hurt by the Democrats. Let's all try to remember who the real enemy is - Davis and his cronies.
147 posted on 10/03/2003 4:47:18 PM PDT by mgstarr
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To: mgstarr
Let's all try to remember who the real enemy is - Davis and his cronies.

You'll get no argument from me.

148 posted on 10/03/2003 4:53:46 PM PDT by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: Saundra Duffy
The hard way, he earned it!


It doesn't appear that the CA voters agree with you on that statement...... I think 'tock thinks he's entitled because he thinks he may have earned it, but in essence he's only doing what he was hired to do. But that's not his to say but rather the electorate's choice of when to say he's earned it and a promotion is due....

149 posted on 10/03/2003 5:07:23 PM PDT by deport (Why does McClintock think he's entitled to the Governor's Office?)
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To: mrs tiggywinkle
"Please attempt to control yourself......"

It's hard maintain control while watching this present bunch of party idiots shoot themselves in the foot, time after time.

I don't think this bunch is even smart enough to figure out who has mounted this campaign against them.

150 posted on 10/03/2003 5:36:27 PM PDT by fightu4it (conquest by immigration and subversion spells the end of US.)
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To: fightu4it
**It's hard maintain control while watching this present bunch of party idiots shoot themselves in the foot, time after time. I don't think this bunch is even smart enough to figure out who has mounted this campaign against them. **

What bunch are you speaking of?

151 posted on 10/03/2003 5:46:25 PM PDT by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: Saundra Duffy
I think you are making a huge mistake by supporting TM
152 posted on 10/03/2003 5:51:39 PM PDT by joyce11111
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To: Saundra Duffy
Sandra, I respect your opinions but I believe you are wrong on this one. In the last two days, Aahnulds' number are even better. The only reason that their aren't exposes on how Tom McClintock foams at the mouth and hits his kids is because he isn't a threat.

The libs know that Aahnuld can win and it would hurt them locally and nationally.

I think Tom will make a great Senator when he faces Boxer and whips her. He will make a great governor, after Aahnuld retires from office.

Sorry to dissapoint, but he is going to win- and win big.

153 posted on 10/03/2003 6:05:37 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum
...In the last two days, Aahnulds' number are even better.... Sorry to dissapoint, but he is going to win- and win big.

Actually Arnold is already over 50% in the SurveyUSA poll.
154 posted on 10/03/2003 6:07:51 PM PDT by fqued (Arnold, in spite of a "vote for Tom McClintock being a vote for Pia Zadora.")
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To: Saundra Duffy
Thank you so much for posting one of the few rational articles on this deteriorating RINO website. Don't let anyone's nonsense rattle you. McClintock can win, the numbers show it. It's simply because so many people lack the moral courage and independence to vote their conscience instead of what the media and its polls tell them that there is even an argument.

Arnold is a liberal. He is a pro-abortion liberal. He is an anti-gun liberal. He is an anti-family, anti-marriage liberal. He is a pro-illegal alien liberal. He is a pro-big-government, big-spender liberal. (How can anyone pretend otherwise with Arnold pushing socialized after-school day-care? Arnold is going to raise taxes and spend more. His advisers are liberal. Every single economic and moral position he takes is liberal. Can anyone even post one conservative quote from Arnold that he still supports?

Arnold has never demonstrated any ability to be a governor. He has no political experience. He has no leadership experience. Never mind his womanizing, steroid use, starring in semi-porno movies, and pro-Hitler remarks. These are just personal foibles that all of us have.

Who cares whether Arnold or the racist Bustamente wins? They both have identical positions so why not support McClintock? What do you conservatives who say you will vote for Arnold have to lose? Arnold's numbers are going to drop when all this new stuff gets digested. Arnold should quit the race, if he really is a Republican, and let the better candidate win.

155 posted on 10/03/2003 6:11:36 PM PDT by baxter999
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To: Saundra Duffy
You know, the one reason I so detest the Democratic Party is that every one of those Democrat Senators who voted not to remove Bill Clinton from office, put Party above personal morality and ethics.

Are we going to head down that same path? Are we now to the point where we are willing to overlook the same behavior we decried not so long ago, for the sake of the party?

156 posted on 10/03/2003 6:21:01 PM PDT by fightu4it (conquest by immigration and subversion spells the end of US.)
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To: mgstarr
I HAVE NOT ATTACKED SCHWARZENEGGER.

I have given my opinion that he's a liberal and I fully expect that opinion to be verified if he's elected governor.

I have offered a week's worth of daily apologies IF he actually moves the conservative agenda forward enough to distinguish the liberal agenda he advances.
157 posted on 10/03/2003 6:35:14 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Saundra Duffy
How we lost...HOW WE LOST IS U AGAIN WERE NOT A TEAM PLAYER...!

Voting Simon in was the mistake all u purist made.....

In life we must work together. Compromise. This selfish attitude in here is getting old and it is exactly what the Rats want.

Arnold will win this thing. Its in our grasp. The left is trying to destroy it in a fit of rage as the sand falls through the hour glass..........and all you extremists are aiding in there mission...!

Repeat after me...GOVERNOR BOOT-YO-MONEY
158 posted on 10/03/2003 6:38:08 PM PDT by Republic Rocker
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To: fightu4it
The democrats weren't alone..
...and you know what?

If Arnold were in the Senate at the time, he's already told you he'd have done the same thing those Democratic Senators did (along with just enough Republican Senators)

So cut it out and think things through with us.
159 posted on 10/03/2003 6:38:26 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Reagan Man
If the Republican leadership had come out early for TM, that would have guaranteed his loss.
160 posted on 10/03/2003 6:40:34 PM PDT by Hildy (SUCKER: Short-sighted Uncompromising Conservative Kool-Aid-drinking Elitist Republican.)
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