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1 posted on 10/03/2003 11:37:33 AM PDT by SHAWON
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Huh?
2 posted on 10/03/2003 11:39:24 AM PDT by MamaLucci ( Clinton met with Monica more than he did his CIA director.)
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3 posted on 10/03/2003 11:41:21 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: SHAWON
I always thought that Kordell Stewart was the Phil Ivey of football.
4 posted on 10/03/2003 11:42:08 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: SHAWON
'If a black guy would have said something about a white quarterback, he would never get a job again,''

What a load of crap.

''Was it a racial situation? ... People say: 'That was a great throw,' as opposed to, 'That pass had a nice touch on it.'

If they say either to Kordell, they’re lying.

If he had as much skill as he has excuses, he’d be All-Pro.

5 posted on 10/03/2003 11:43:13 AM PDT by dead (Arnold Schwarzenneger touches me inappropriately)
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To: SHAWON
''If a black guy would have said something about a white quarterback, he would never get a job again,'' Stewart said

Wow! Kordell's been sacked one to many times.
6 posted on 10/03/2003 11:43:48 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS
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To: SHAWON
Rush Limbaugh resigned under pressure from ESPN's ''Sunday NFL Countdown'' on Wednesday after making racially charged remarks about Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb.



Limbaugh said McNabb was overrated because "the media ''has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well.'' McNabb expressed disappointment that his skin color would be made an issue, while Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie took the opportunity to accuse ESPN of ''institutional racism'' for hiring Limbaugh in the first place and ripped the network for its portrayal of NFL players in the series ''Playmakers.''

Bears quarterback Kordell Stewart, one of nine African-American starters at the position in the 32-team NFL, believes Limbaugh resigned under pressure and deserved to be fired.

Stewart doesn't have a lot of tolerance for the double standard he believes exists in the evaluation of NFL quarterbacks. Although Stewart said he hasn't been subjected to a great deal of direct racism during his nine-year career, he believes ''it's there'' and points out that Limbaugh merely loses a weekend gig but is allowed to keep his daytime radio job.

''If a black guy would have said something about a white quarterback, he would never get a job again,'' Stewart said. ''Of course, he wouldn't. He wouldn't even be on the radio. [Limbaugh is still] on the radio. When black guys or black quarterbacks speak out loud, they are, how do we say it: 'He's upset, he's frustrated, he's angry.' That's not the case, the angry thing.''

Stewart cited instances of players who were spotted ranting and raving at offensive coaches on the sidelines in the last two weeks. While 49ers receiver Terrell Owens is regarded as a maniac, Raiders quarterback Rich Gannon is celebrated as a competitor.

''It's like Terrell Owens, he expressed himself with passion. Not because he's angry and wants to kill somebody,'' Stewart said. ''That's like David Terrell, he has passion, too. If it's a white guy, like Rich Gannon, nobody [complained] about that. There are exceptions. Why did we not ridicule that situation? Because he was MVP of the league? Because he went to the Super Bowl?''

Stewart doesn't think the criticism he has received during the Bears' three-game losing streak has been racially motivated. He's not so sure about what happened during his tenure in Pittsburgh, especially his final season, when he was given a quick hook after a slow start the year after making the Pro Bowl and being voted the team MVP.

''I lose a game, and it's like I tried to kill the president,'' Stewart said. ''All of a sudden, we have a quarterback controversy.

''I had my opportunity there, and I wish my opportunities could have been handled a little different. When you win the way I won, you would think the opportunity of hanging around would be there a little bit longer. I guess [coach Bill Cowher] didn't want that kind of guy around anymore, the guy who could just win. He wanted to win a certain kind of way. Now they are in a situation where they have to deal with what they have to deal with.

''Was it a racial situation? I would say yes and no. But I would say more no than anything because I got it done and I had some success there. Yes, because it's the obvious. People say: 'That was a great throw,' as opposed to, 'That pass had a nice touch on it.'

''How words are used is such a fine line ... but if you really pay attention, you can hear it sometimes.''

Stewart said he had a lot of thoughts about the subject but didn't want to discuss them ''because I don't want to create issues.'' But he believes that quarterbacks such as himself and McNabb, who have succeeded in an unconventional fashion, are not as appreciated as traditional dropback quarterbacks.

''For example, Peyton Manning, I love him to death, he's one of the guys,'' Stewart said. ''He has not gone to the AFC championship, he has not won a playoff game. But because he threw for 4,000 yards, he's the guy. McNabb has gone to two NFC championships. I have gone to two AFC championships. I have gone to the Pro Bowl. I played receiver. Mix all that in together, and I must have some skills. I must have some intelligence.''

Stewart said African-American quarterbacks need to be given the chance to fail and try again, like many of their white counterparts have been given. He noted that Brett Favre was given a chance by the Packers despite problems with alcohol that followed him from the Falcons and that Kerry Collins was allowed to reinvent himself with the Giants after having racial issues with the Panthers and a DUI with the Saints.

''Take a situation like Kurt Warner or Tom Brady or even Brett Favre, they can throw so many picks and they are allowed to fail, that's OK, that's fine,'' Stewart said. ''Nothing against quarterbacks who aren't black, but why can't we be given those same opportunities? In order for us to learn, we have to be given an opportunity to fail and fail more than once. Not making an exception, but understanding that we're all quarterbacks and we're all going to make those mistakes.''








7 posted on 10/03/2003 11:45:25 AM PDT by Professional
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To: SHAWON
''If a black guy would have said something about a white quarterback, he would never get a job again,'' Stewart said.

Maybe he never heard of Dusty Baker who said Blacks and Hispanics are better suited genetically to play in the heat. Not racist?

9 posted on 10/03/2003 11:46:05 AM PDT by kevao (Fuques France!)
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To: SHAWON
Of all the NFL players who I've heard weigh in on the subject, I thought Levar Arrington's comments were the least hysterical. He basically took Rush to task for a lack of football knowledge, he didn't utter the dreaded "r" word.
15 posted on 10/03/2003 11:50:02 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: SHAWON
I watched him on Monday Night Football.

Would he feel better if we say HE stinks?!

16 posted on 10/03/2003 11:50:35 AM PDT by DrNo
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To: SHAWON
Stewart doesn't think the criticism he has received during the Bears' three-game losing streak has been racially motivated. He's not so sure about what happened during his tenure in Pittsburgh, especially his final season, when he was given a quick hook after a slow start the year after making the Pro Bowl and being voted the team MVP.

As a 'Burgh resident and Steelers fan, I say BWAAAAA! I add, HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

18 posted on 10/03/2003 11:52:37 AM PDT by ellery
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Burgh ping candidate?
20 posted on 10/03/2003 11:53:23 AM PDT by ellery
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To: SHAWON
Kordell Stewart is a wonderful example of carried FARRRRR longer than anyone would have a white quarterback under identical circumstances.
29 posted on 10/03/2003 12:03:40 PM PDT by dfrussell
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Rush Limbaugh resigned under pressure from ESPN's ''Sunday NFL Countdown'' on Wednesday after making racially charged remarks about Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb.

Limbaugh said McNabb was overrated because "the media ''has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well.'' McNabb expressed disappointment that his skin color would be made an issue, while Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie took the opportunity to accuse ESPN of ''institutional racism'' for hiring Limbaugh in the first place and ripped the network for its portrayal of NFL players in the series ''Playmakers.''

Bears quarterback Kordell Stewart, one of nine African-American starters at the position in the 32-team NFL, believes Limbaugh resigned under pressure and deserved to be fired.

Stewart doesn't have a lot of tolerance for the double standard he believes exists in the evaluation of NFL quarterbacks. Although Stewart said he hasn't been subjected to a great deal of direct racism during his nine-year career, he believes ''it's there'' and points out that Limbaugh merely loses a weekend gig but is allowed to keep his daytime radio job.

''If a black guy would have said something about a white quarterback, he would never get a job again,'' Stewart said. ''Of course, he wouldn't. He wouldn't even be on the radio. [Limbaugh is still] on the radio. When black guys or black quarterbacks speak out loud, they are, how do we say it: 'He's upset, he's frustrated, he's angry.' That's not the case, the angry thing.''

Stewart cited instances of players who were spotted ranting and raving at offensive coaches on the sidelines in the last two weeks. While 49ers receiver Terrell Owens is regarded as a maniac, Raiders quarterback Rich Gannon is celebrated as a competitor.

''It's like Terrell Owens, he expressed himself with passion. Not because he's angry and wants to kill somebody,'' Stewart said. ''That's like David Terrell, he has passion, too. If it's a white guy, like Rich Gannon, nobody [complained] about that. There are exceptions. Why did we not ridicule that situation? Because he was MVP of the league? Because he went to the Super Bowl?''

Stewart doesn't think the criticism he has received during the Bears' three-game losing streak has been racially motivated. He's not so sure about what happened during his tenure in Pittsburgh, especially his final season, when he was given a quick hook after a slow start the year after making the Pro Bowl and being voted the team MVP.

''I lose a game, and it's like I tried to kill the president,'' Stewart said. ''All of a sudden, we have a quarterback controversy.

''I had my opportunity there, and I wish my opportunities could have been handled a little different. When you win the way I won, you would think the opportunity of hanging around would be there a little bit longer. I guess [coach Bill Cowher] didn't want that kind of guy around anymore, the guy who could just win. He wanted to win a certain kind of way. Now they are in a situation where they have to deal with what they have to deal with.

''Was it a racial situation? I would say yes and no. But I would say more no than anything because I got it done and I had some success there. Yes, because it's the obvious. People say: 'That was a great throw,' as opposed to, 'That pass had a nice touch on it.'

''How words are used is such a fine line ... but if you really pay attention, you can hear it sometimes.''

Stewart said he had a lot of thoughts about the subject but didn't want to discuss them ''because I don't want to create issues.'' But he believes that quarterbacks such as himself and McNabb, who have succeeded in an unconventional fashion, are not as appreciated as traditional dropback quarterbacks.

''For example, Peyton Manning, I love him to death, he's one of the guys,'' Stewart said. ''He has not gone to the AFC championship, he has not won a playoff game. But because he threw for 4,000 yards, he's the guy. McNabb has gone to two NFC championships. I have gone to two AFC championships. I have gone to the Pro Bowl. I played receiver. Mix all that in together, and I must have some skills. I must have some intelligence.''

Stewart said African-American quarterbacks need to be given the chance to fail and try again, like many of their white counterparts have been given. He noted that Brett Favre was given a chance by the Packers despite problems with alcohol that followed him from the Falcons and that Kerry Collins was allowed to reinvent himself with the Giants after having racial issues with the Panthers and a DUI with the Saints.

''Take a situation like Kurt Warner or Tom Brady or even Brett Favre, they can throw so many picks and they are allowed to fail, that's OK, that's fine,'' Stewart said. ''Nothing against quarterbacks who aren't black, but why can't we be given those same opportunities? In order for us to learn, we have to be given an opportunity to fail and fail more than once. Not making an exception, but understanding that we're all quarterbacks and we're all going to make those mistakes.''


35 posted on 10/03/2003 12:07:38 PM PDT by mhking (When it rains it pours: I'm looking for a job again -- any offers or help: mhking@bellsouth.net)
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Of course, Kordell Stewart is one to talk: he IS a black quarterback that sucks and is being propped up by the media.

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37 posted on 10/03/2003 12:09:07 PM PDT by mhking (When it rains it pours: I'm looking for a job again -- any offers or help: mhking@bellsouth.net)
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To: SHAWON
Stewart cited instances of players who were spotted ranting and raving at offensive coaches on the sidelines in the last two weeks. While 49ers receiver Terrell Owens is regarded as a maniac, Raiders quarterback Rich Gannon is celebrated as a competitor.

''It's like Terrell Owens, he expressed himself with passion. Not because he's angry and wants to kill somebody,'' Stewart said. ''That's like David Terrell, he has passion, too. If it's a white guy, like Rich Gannon, nobody [complained] about that. There are exceptions. Why did we not ridicule that situation? Because he was MVP of the league? Because he went to the Super Bowl?''

In general, I agree with this assessment from Stewart.

56 posted on 10/03/2003 12:54:12 PM PDT by Nexus
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Check it out http://www.nfl.com/news/story/6685188, the white media is sticking up for Kordell because he is black.

Did I just say that? Uh oh, I better start clearing out my desk...

69 posted on 10/03/2003 2:00:22 PM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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Korky had it great for a loooong time with the Pgh media...after he pouted and became a locker-room cancer, they started to citicize a bit, but up until the very end, he had allies in the media, no doubt about it. He just started to suck SO BAD, especially in big games, that it was impossible to ignore or make excuses for.
73 posted on 10/03/2003 4:53:55 PM PDT by Benrand
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