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To: Polybius
Question: Since 1974, have there been any DNA tests to determine if Alfonso XII was really the biological son of Isabel II's allegedly homosexual husband and Bourbon cousin, Francisco de Asis, or if Alfonso XII was the biological son of Isabel II's lover, Antonio Puig Molto?

I don't think so; as far as I know this has never been resolved. Isabel II had more than one lover during that time, so who knows who the father was.

The fact that the continuation of the Bourbon male line in the Spanish royal family is doubtful is one reason why I'm inclined to support Henri, Count of Paris (who is definitely descended in the male line from Louis XIII) rather than Luis Alfonso, Duke of Anjou (Juan Carlos's cousin) as claimant to the French throne.

Which book are you reading? My favorite on this subject is Theo Aronson's A Royal Vendetta (1965).

49 posted on 12/08/2003 6:17:12 AM PST by royalcello
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To: royalcello
The fact that the continuation of the Bourbon male line in the Spanish royal family is doubtful is one reason why I'm inclined to support Henri, Count of Paris (who is definitely descended in the male line from Louis XIII) rather than Luis Alfonso, Duke of Anjou (Juan Carlos's cousin) as claimant to the French throne.

Which book are you reading?

"The Spanish Bourbons" by John D. Bergamini.

I've never really paid close attention to present day dynastic claims disputes and I'll have to get to the end of the book to see what the Spanish Carlist pretenders are doing right now. Up until Alfonso XII, the Carlist line appears to have kept the Bourbon Y chromosome. With Alfonso XII, there is doubt as to whether his father was actually the allegedly gay Francisco of Asis, the Bourbon first cousin of Isabell II. But even if he was, there is still a question as to whether Francisco of Asis' father, the Infante Francisco, was the illegitimate son of Manuel Godoy and Queen Maria Luisa, wife of the cuckolded Carlos IV.

In Goya's "Family of Carlos IV", the Infante Francisco, alleged illigitimate son of Manual Godoy, is the male child holding Queen Maria Luisa's left hand. The future Fernando VII, who produced no male heirs and was the father of the sexually adventurous future Queen Isabel II who marrried her uncle Fransico's allegedly gay son, is the teenager dressed in blue on the left hand side and his brother, the Infante Carlos, is the younger boy behind him.

Unless I missed something in prior chapters, by the 1870's when the Bourbon Spanish throne was restored in the person of Alfonso XII, Isabel II's son, only the descendants of the Infante Carlos, the son of King Carlos IV, could unquestionably claim male descent directly from Louis XIV.


54 posted on 12/08/2003 8:10:27 AM PST by Polybius
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