[GiveEmDubya]

Well yes, and it only makes sense. Look what happened after the Rae government. The NDP crashed and burned and never came back. After a term of Dalton, the pendulum will (hopefully) swing back, and maybe, just maybe, the Tories will have a strong leader by then.

[Squawk 8888]

The fatal error was the 2002 budget that hiked taxes and boosted spending- the party abandoned its core vote without a hope of winning over anyone who supported the opposition. They will lose today not because the Liberals have gained support, but because Harris supporters are sitting this one out. The day after the 2002 budget was released I emailed Jim Flaherty to let him know that I would support him for leadership after the party loses the next election; apparently many others contacted him to express the same sentiment.