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1) "4ConservativeJustices has already given you an excerpt of the agreement at secession."

And what agreement would that be ?

2) The Star of the West is a red herring ?

You can't be serious.

3) You are correct that Sumter was not properly garrisoned. However engineer troops and ordnance officers did perform duty there in 1859 & 60.

4) "The fact remains that firing upon Ft. Sumter and the firing on the Star of the West were absolutely necessary for Charleston to remain an uncontested harbor. The fact remains that the retention of troops in Ft. Sumter and its attempted provisioning were *intended* to be the unignorable provocations that they were."

Dude, your self delusions are almost comical but hey, at least you finally got the name of Fort Moultrie right. I guess there is hope for everyone. I often wonder if desk-jockey Super Confederates ever see their similarity with Arab apologists. It's never your fault, yours is the only true way and yeah you did bad things but the other guy (insert Yankees or evil infidels) made you do it.

Truly amazing.

My ancestors came here *after* Lincoln tore the Constitution apart.

I was only given the Unionist view in a NY school. It failed the smell test, but views with fewer inherent contradictions had to be researched.

Part of the reason I became conservative is because *that* Unionist view is directly tied via consequence to today's Liberal and Communist views. I discovered the "other side of the story" because there were a number of issues that were self-contradictory in much of what was being taught as "Social Studies".

The destruction of Ft. Sumter was a cynically planned operation from the White House, not from Virginia. Each action was designed to force the South to fire. What is remarkable is NOT that Ft. Sumter was fired upon, but that they took half a year before doing it. There's documented congratulations concerning the success of this plan dating back to when the South finally ran out of patience.

The United States has a choice before it: It can learn the lessons of the triggers that led to a war pitting brother against brother with the some of the highest casualty rates of any other similar wars or your grandsons and grand-daughters can wonder if there ever were two sides to any issues before their benign dictator seized power.

You have more than one screw loose if you think the principle of retaining slavery drove men to battle beyond normal human endurance against their own brothers, against their own families.