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To: capitan_refugio
[nolu chan] George Washington was inaugurated April 30, 1789. Perhaps you could explain how the country remained the same from April 30, 1789 to May 29, 1790.

I note that your diversionary response does not address what I said.

[CapnR] I found an interesting fact. In the 1st Congress, which convened March 4, 1789, but did not achieve quorums in each of the two Houses until some weeks later, seats were set aside for North Carolina and Rhode Island. It seems the rest of the country anticipated their belated arrival into the new government.

As North Carolina and Rhode Island were not allowed to have anyone in those seats, it is quite irrelevant. The Union consisted of ELEVEN states.

[CapnR] By the way, what is the birthdate of the United States of America? I suggest most people would not say March 4, 1789.

I would say most people would not say the birthdate of the United States Marine Corps is November 10, 1775. I would say most people cannot correctly answer the question, "Who is buried in Grant's tomb?"

Most Americans would say Iraqis flew the planes into the Twin Towers. I would suggest that citing what most people say is not a very powerful support for your argument.

1,452 posted on 10/25/2003 1:37:56 AM PDT by nolu chan
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To: nolu chan
Talk about "diversionary answers"!!! What is the birthdate, in your opinion, of the United States of America?

Let me give you but a few examples of how the "country remained the same" during the time period April 30, 1789 to May 29, 1790 (Washington's inauguration as President to Rhode Island's ratification of the Constitution of 1787):

The United States Army remained intact.
The United States Navy remained intact.
The United States Post Office continued to function as before.
Postage continued to be honored.
The coinage used prior to that time continued to be used after that time.
The boundaries of the States did not change.
The name of the country did not change.
The last of the Congresses of the Confederation, by its actions, anticipated the orderly change over to the 1st Congress under the new Constitution.
The governments of the individual states continued to function as before.

How many more do you want? How do you think it changed? By reserving seats in the new Congress for the tardy Rhode Island and North Carolina, it was apparent the 11 other States were not tossing these two out of the Union. They were providing for them. Similarly, the rebel states of the Civil War Confederacy were not tossed out of the Union. They remained in the Union (as per Texas vs White). Some of these states were without representation until Confederate anarchy could be replaced with the rule of law.

1,455 posted on 10/25/2003 2:12:29 AM PDT by capitan_refugio
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