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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Stating that they were conscripted does not imply dishonour. Just the opposite, I have long held those that served - black, white, red or yellow - in the highest regards

Not in a bogus 'culture' like the Confederacy where every single soldier was conscripted at least once. But it does in a society such as the North had where 98% of the white soldiers were volunteers, and it certainly did for Americans of African Heritage in the south where all Americans of African heritage who chose to fight for their freedom with honor in the Union Army did so voluntarrily. That was, of course, the honorable alernative to digging ditches for the greatest slave master in the history of America, that scum bastard Lee. That traitor, by the way, forced American soldiers to dig ditches under fire, and was only stopped from such a violation of the accepted rules of war by his Excellency, Benjamin Butler.

1,071 posted on 10/13/2003 11:45:49 AM PDT by Held_to_Ransom
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To: Held_to_Ransom
Not in a bogus 'culture' like the Confederacy where every single soldier was conscripted at least once.

Nonsense. My ancestor volunteered on 3 separate occasions, each a 1 year term.

But it does in a society such as the North had where 98% of the white soldiers were volunteers

I guess you never heard of the Draft Riots huh? Or the Enrollment Acts?

all Americans of African heritage who chose to fight for their freedom with honor in the Union Army did so voluntarrily

Lt. Col. Glenn. Executive Mansion
Commanding Post at Washington,
Henderson, Ky. Feb. 7. 1865

Complaint is made to me that you are forcing negroes into the Military service, and even torturing them---riding them on rails and the like---to extort their consent. I hope this may be a mistake. The like must not be done by you, or any one under you. You must not force negroes any more than white men. Answer me on this.

A. LINCOLN
Collected Works Of Lincoln, Roy P. Basler, ed, Vol VIII, p. 266.

The wives and mothers of the conscripts, giving way to their feelings, break into the loudest lamentations and rush upon the men, clinging to them with the agony of separation.

At Marion Chaplin's the same plan was pursued, the men being found in the fields, collected, impressed, and marched off.
Official Records: Series 3, vol 2, Part 1 (Union Letters, Orders, Reports), pp.59-60

That was, of course, the honorable alernative to digging ditches for the greatest slave master in the history of America, that scum bastard Lee. That traitor, by the way, forced American soldiers to dig ditches under fire, and was only stopped from such a violation of the accepted rules of war by his Excellency, Benjamin Butler.

Lee freed the slaves his wife inheirited, he also ordered his own son to continue to fight in a battle - he didn't discriminate. Regarding your hero "Beast"/"Spoons" Butler,

NEW BERNE, N. C., September 1, 1864.

Major General B. F. BUTLER,
Commanding Department of Virginia and North Carolina:

GENERAL: The negroes will not go voluntarily, so I am obliged to force them. I have sent seventy-one and will send this afternoon about 150.

I expect to get a large to-morrow. I have done all that could be done, but I am not as fortunate as you expected me to be. I shall keep working.

I have the honor to be, very respectfully,

FRED. MARTIN,

Captain and Aide-de-Camp.
Official Records: Series 1, vol 42, Part 2 (Richmond-Fort Fisher), pp. 653-654


1,074 posted on 10/13/2003 2:02:56 PM PDT by 4CJ (Come along chihuahua, I want to hear you say yo quiero taco bell. - Nolu Chan, 28 Jul 2003)
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