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Daily Thread: Illegal Alien Freedom Ride Counter Protest
Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) ^ | Sept. 27, 2003 | staff

Posted on 09/27/2003 4:45:44 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING

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To: ETERNAL WARMING; 4.1O dana super trac pak
Dana- EW is instrumental in activism on this issue and is vital to starting our campaign for this next week. Also you can bet if we get our own march EW will help head it ;)
81 posted on 09/28/2003 1:26:30 PM PDT by JustPiper (Who is Minding Our Border's!!! 1-800- Shock Fences!!!)
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To: FITZ
This is what I was yelling at them Fitz! My problem isn't with Hispanics, my problem is with ILLEGAL Hispanics! Make a good poster hmmmm....
82 posted on 09/28/2003 1:32:55 PM PDT by JustPiper (Who is Minding Our Border's!!! 1-800- Shock Fences!!!)
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To: FITZ
Like Luis Guiterrex!
83 posted on 09/28/2003 1:34:01 PM PDT by JustPiper (Who is Minding Our Border's!!! 1-800- Shock Fences!!!)
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To: texastoo
Thank you Too ;)
84 posted on 09/28/2003 1:35:18 PM PDT by JustPiper (Who is Minding Our Border's!!! 1-800- Shock Fences!!!)
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To: Pro-Bush
Yes, the time has come M where we need to either bring or leave our families behind for a few days-week and organize our own March by spring! Just in time for the primaries maybe?
85 posted on 09/28/2003 1:37:40 PM PDT by JustPiper (Who is Minding Our Border's!!! 1-800- Shock Fences!!!)
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To: Pro-Bush
Please remember my teenager Freeper- Kinetic ;) She's so much like her grandmom and Mom ;)She is 3rd generation Conservative fighter!
86 posted on 09/28/2003 1:39:41 PM PDT by JustPiper (Who is Minding Our Border's!!! 1-800- Shock Fences!!!)
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To: texastoo
We think very alike...Itold those idiots yelling at us, at least yell at me in English so I understand your threats ;)
87 posted on 09/28/2003 1:41:16 PM PDT by JustPiper (Who is Minding Our Border's!!! 1-800- Shock Fences!!!)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Here's the link buddee:

Here

88 posted on 09/28/2003 1:44:34 PM PDT by JustPiper (Who is Minding Our Border's!!! 1-800- Shock Fences!!!)
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To: All; *immigrant_list; FITZ; moehoward; Nea Wood; CheneyChick; Joe Hadenuf; sangoo; ...
Here are some talking points and facts when you make your calls etc.

Federal Immigration and Nationality Act
Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii)

Encouraging and Harboring Illegal Aliens

It is a violation of law for any person to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection in any place, including any building or means of transportation, any alien who is in the United States in violation of law. HARBORING MEANS ANY CONDUCT THAT TENDS TO SUBSTANTIALLY FACILITATE AN ALIEN TO REMAIN IN THE U.S. ILLEGALLY. The sheltering need not be clandestine, and harboring covers aliens arrested outdoors, as well as in a building. This provision includes harboring an alien who entered the U.S. legally but has since lost his legal status.


Money sent from Mexican workers in the United States to their families back home has reached a record $12 billion in 2003, Mexican President Vicente Fox said Wednesday.

Families of 9/11 victims are taking to the airwaves. They
want to stop immigration until our borders are safe and secure. Peter Gadiel lost his son in 911.

Encourage Federal Action Against Illegal Aliens
Participating in National "Freedom Ride" - Given that participants may be comprised of significant numbers of illegal aliens, it would be logical to expect
federal immigration enforcement authorities' actions to
identify, detain and begin proceedings for deportation
of any such aliens. However, experience suggests it
would be wrong to expect any reaction that might be
termed "anti-immigrant."

You can encourage federal immigration enforcement
authorities to do their job by calling your senators and
representative as well as the Department of Homeland
Security to demand that enforcement authorities identify
and arrest any illegal aliens in this group.

Freepers and Freedom Lovers, you can check this thread daily, we will always be adding new ideas and info!





89 posted on 09/28/2003 1:51:08 PM PDT by JustPiper (Who is Minding Our Border's!!! 1-800- Shock Fences!!!)
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To: Jerr
Yeppers Go Cubbies! And Jerr thank for your post!!!
90 posted on 09/28/2003 1:53:21 PM PDT by JustPiper (Who is Minding Our Border's!!! 1-800- Shock Fences!!!)
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To: Victoria_R; All
Patriots;Freepers please take note on Victoria's talking point, it is excellent!

"Where were they when my civil rights were violated when my driver's license was pulled without due process?", "Where was my cut rate tuition when I went to college?", "Where's my job that I've been looking for the last 2 years?"

They really get uncomfortable when you ask how to become an illegal alien so you can get free stuff.


Please all add to this list of SELLOUTS to contact!!!

Craig and Crapo, Idaho´s U.S. senators, declined comment.

16th Legislative District Democrats

Howard Dean, 2004 Presidential Candidate

Dennis Kucinich, 2004 Presidential Candidate

(California)
Rep. Bob Filner, (D-California)
Rep. Maxine Waters, (D-California)

Rep. Hilda Solis, Congresswoman
Rep. Linda Sanchez, Congresswoman

Rep. Bennie Thompson, (D-Mississippi)

Rep. Erik Fleming, Mississippi House of Representatives

Rep. Jim Evans, Mississippi House of Representatives

Rep. David Green, Mississippi House of Representatives

Rep. Joseph Crowley (New York)
Rep. Maurice Hinchey (D-New York)
Rep. Gary L. Ackerman (New York)
Rep. Nydia Velazquez (New York)

Rep. Nita M. Lowey U.S. House of Representatives, District 18

Sen. Major R. Owens U.S. Congress District 11
Rep. Charles B Rangel, (D-New York)
Rep. Gregory W. Meeks (New York)

Rep. Anastasia Williams Rhode Island House of Representatives
Rep. Leon Tejada Rhode Island House of Representatives
Rep. Arthur Handy Rhode Island House of Representatives
Rep. Paul Moura Rhode Island House of Representatives

Rep. Jim McDermott, (Washington)

Mayor Greg Nickels, Seattle Mayor

Rep. Adam Smith (Washington)
Rep. Phyllis Gutierrez Kenney, Washington House of Representatives 46th district
Rep. Eric Pettigrew, Washington House of Representatives 37th district

Kolbe, Flake, and McCain

On July 10, Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) introduced his
guestworker amnesty bill, S. 1387, the Border Security and Immigration Reform Act of 2003

Orrin Hatch (R-UT)



91 posted on 09/28/2003 1:58:30 PM PDT by JustPiper (Who is Minding Our Border's!!! 1-800- Shock Fences!!!)
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To: wita; All
A white supremacist organized the Chicago rally. And he posted for all to leave their tshirts etc. at home. They did not! They wore swastika's and hate shirts and had hateful posters. When I asked him about this very pointedly, he told me so what and aren't the Mexicans racist? Man, then I queried him about had he heard of FR and his reply was I would not bother joining because they are Jews! He said more but it's not fit for posting. So they haven't stopped and the Feds are still taking their photos!
92 posted on 09/28/2003 2:02:37 PM PDT by JustPiper (Who is Minding Our Border's!!! 1-800- Shock Fences!!!)
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To: Missouri
As you'll see Mo. I posted my coversation with the leader, they were a hateful group.
93 posted on 09/28/2003 2:05:06 PM PDT by JustPiper (Who is Minding Our Border's!!! 1-800- Shock Fences!!!)
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To: All
Please add to this lists of those on our side, so we can ally with them this week also:

Senate Immigration Subcommittee hearing generally sympathetic


Rep. Virgil Goode

Mike Spence-CA Rep. Assembly pettions against license!


Senator Dennis Hollingsworth of the Republican Legislative Caucus

Tancredo - Support Tancredo Amendment to Cut Off Federal
Funding for Illegal Alien Sanctuary States and Localities


U.S. Rep. Jim Marshall, D-Ga

Michael Bilirakis (R-FL)
Barbara Cubin (R-WY)
Nathan Deal (R-GA)
John Duncan (R-TN)
Virgil Goode (R-VA)
Sam Johnson (R-TX)
Steve King (R-IA)
Charlie Norwood (R-GA)
Immigration Reform Caucus Member Charlie Norwood (R-GA)

Representatives Allen Boyd (R-FL), Melissa Hart (R-PA), Nathan Deal (R-GA) original cosponsors H.R. 2671


Demand an explanation from all of them why federal permits for use of public property have been granted to what are purported to be violators of federal immigration law.

Peter Gadiel -lost Jamie son 911

Senator Charles Grassley

Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus


94 posted on 09/28/2003 2:11:37 PM PDT by JustPiper (Who is Minding Our Border's!!! 1-800- Shock Fences!!!)
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To: All
A form letter:

Tell Congress to Get Control of Immigration

As your constituent, I am writing to ask you to make immigration control a top priority. I am concerned with the fact that Congress still has not implemented the immigration policy reforms needed to make sure that the tragedy of 9-11 does not happen again.

Current immigration levels are so high that immigration officials are unable to thoroughly screen immigrants before allowing them into the country—as 9-11 tragically underscored. Just as one would shut off the main water valve before attempting to fix a leaky pipe, the U.S. needs to turn off the flow while we repair a dysfunctional policy. A time-out from today’s high immigration levels would allow us to concentrate on stopping the massive illegal immigration problem and regaining control of our borders.
Please cosponsor H.R. 946, the Mass Immigration Reduction Act of 2003, which would enact a five-year moratorium on many categories of immigration so that we can implement reforms crucial to national security.

Please also support the CLEAR Act, H.R. 2671, which would protect homeland security by giving state and local law enforcement agencies the authority and resources needed to detain criminal and illegal aliens within the course of their regular duties.

I am also counting on you to oppose any efforts to grant amnesty to illegal aliens or otherwise reward them, including guestworker amnesties and student amnesties.

I look forward to your response and hope to see you taking action on this important issue in the near future.

95 posted on 09/28/2003 2:13:20 PM PDT by JustPiper (Who is Minding Our Border's!!! 1-800- Shock Fences!!!)
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To: All
More than 30 million immigrants have settled in the United States since 1970. Now our cities, schools, health care systems, labor markets, and environment all need a break. We cannot provide high quality education, health care, and retirement security for our own people if we continue to bring in endless numbers of poor, unskilled immigrants.


Current immigration levels are so high that immigration officials are unable to thoroughly screen
immigrants before allowing them into the country-as
September 11, 2001 tragically underscored. Just as one
would shut off the main water valve before attempting
to fix a leaky pipe, the U.S. needs to turn off the
flow while we repair a dysfunctional policy.


Stopping most forms of immigration temporarily would allow us time to devise an immigration policy that truly meets national needs. It would also allow us to concentrate on stopping the massive illegal immigration problem and regaining control of our borders.

These cards are used almost exclusively by illegal
aliens. Legal residents can obtain driver's licenses
and other U.S.-issued ID, while visitors from Mexico
can use a passport to identify themselves. U.S. immigration authorities have said the Matricula
Consular is virtually worthless as an identity
document. The documents people use to apply for these
cards are easily counterfeited. In fact, people have
been apprehended in possession of numerous cards with
multiple identities.

Honoring these cards puts the state in a position of
aiding people who may be violation of federal
immigration laws.

Currently, the Bureau of Immigration and Customs
Enforcement (BICE) has only 2,000 interior enforcement
agents dedicated to enforcing immigration law and
locating some 400,000 illegal aliens with standing
deportation orders. Of those, 80,000 are criminal aliens
and 15,000 are of national security interest. The
federal government does not have the resources or
manpower to track these and other illegal aliens down
and deport them.

The federal government does not have the resources or
manpower to track down and deport the 8 to 11 million
illegal aliens currently living in the U.S. Of these,
400,000 have standing deportation orders, 80,000 are
criminal aliens, and 15,000 may pose a national
security risk.

96 posted on 09/28/2003 2:20:24 PM PDT by JustPiper (Who is Minding Our Border's!!! 1-800- Shock Fences!!!)
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To: All
Why doesn't Mexico have an Olympic team?

Because everybody who can run, jump, and swim are already in America.
97 posted on 09/28/2003 2:31:03 PM PDT by JustPiper (Who is Minding Our Border's!!! 1-800- Shock Fences!!!)
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To: JustPiper
It's tough when you gotta job/bills/mortgage/family etc. and aren't back by $$$ from communist/socialist/hate America front groups and politicians. All I know of is the Million American March, Sept. 6, 2004, Washington D.C. There are a lot of groups to join join if you look at the links on AmericanPatrol.com. That link list is getting big. Gotta keep up the pressure.

http://www.millionamericanmarch.com/March.html

98 posted on 09/28/2003 2:45:29 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: gpl4eva
Well, accoridng to the Census Bureau, Miami-Dade county is the first place in the nation where foreign born residents exceed the number of native American citizens. That's only counting the legals, no doubt the number would be greater if you counted the illegal scumbag aliens that infest South Florida. Miami is the first of many to come in the near future, I bet.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

99 posted on 09/28/2003 2:56:45 PM PDT by wku man ("I'm not a hero...I just like hitting people in the head!" Nelson Munz)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING; Kwilliams; All
From an Article on WND by our very own Freeper Kyle Williams!

Bush's bum strategy
Posted: September 27, 2003


"What about domestic policy," you ask. Well, from what I see, President Bush's work on his domestic agenda has been at least a few bars under a success. Sure, the tax cut was awesome and … ? The fact is that he's gotten beat up on the home front.

Back to the new tone of Washington: This has been the factor that has held the president back in policy setting – unless, of course, he really set out to be so liberal from the beginning. It's simple; he wanted to gain friends and respect in D.C., but that didn't work out.

President Bush isn't stupid, so he knows whether his strategy is working – and the new tone has never worked. It looks like all he's doing is avoiding controversy whenever possible to gain political capital.

Thus, I'm beginning to wonder what all his political capital had been saved for – maybe it's just going to rot away. Either this next year is going to be a year that Bush will take strong stands (and such controversy isn't likely in an election year) or he's going to float along and waste his position of authority and possibly go down in the books as a one-term, moderate president – like his dad.

President Bush is no longer unbeatable and the chances of him losing are growing. According to an NCB-Wall Street Journal poll, President Bush's approval ratings have dipped to the lowest his administration has ever seen: 49 percent.

Moreover, according to the latest polling from Newsweek, 43 percent of registered voters say they'd vote for Clark or lean toward Clark, compared to 47 percent who'd vote for Bush or lean toward Bush.

Excluding the tax cut, Bush has all but ignored his conservative base with his new tone with the liberals in D.C. – and it might have worked, but it didn't. He sucked up to the liberal leadership, and they stabbed him in the back.

President Bush has been able to try out his new tone in Washington in the second half of this year, and the success has been less than grand. While it may seem logical to avoid controversy, he has alienated the base that elected him – conservatives. With conservatives unhappy and his so-called "friends" bashing him daily, Bush and his political geniuses need to figure something out.

What they need to figure out is this: A line has been drawn. He either must return to a conservative base or commit to a liberal base.




100 posted on 09/28/2003 3:00:20 PM PDT by JustPiper (Who is Minding Our Border's!!! 1-800- Shock Fences!!!)
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