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Daily Thread: Illegal Alien Freedom Ride Counter Protest
Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) ^ | Sept. 27, 2003 | staff

Posted on 09/27/2003 4:45:44 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING

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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Oceanside Officer Tony Zeppetella was a rookie cop, who had been in the department just over a year, when he was shot three times and killed in a credit union parking lot by Adrian George Camacho, a Mexican illegal alien with a long criminal record. Officer Zeppetella was married with a six-month-old child. He was born in Whittier and enlisted in the navy after he graduated from high school in 1994. Tony Zeppetella was 27 years old when he was killed. The accused killer had been deported several times, and his criminal record lists drugs, illegal firearms possession and gang activity. Camacho fled the scene of the shooting to the home of his ex-wife's parents, and was taken into custody only after a four-hour standoff.

Dana, this one broke my heart:

Sister Helen Chaska was murdered in late summer 2002 by being strangled with her rosary beads — the beads were found imbedded in her neck. She was also raped, as was another nun who accompanied Sister Helen during walking prayers. Both women were in Klamath Falls, Oregon, doing missionary work when the crimes occurred. Her accused murderer is Maximiliano Esparza, who is in the United States illegally, and was convicted in 1988 of robbery and kidnapping in Los Angeles. He was sentenced to six years in prison, was released in 1992 and was on probation until 1995. By law, this man should have been deported to Mexico after his release in 1992. Instead, the INS allowed him to remain in the United States and commit even more heinous crimes. In this article, Michelle Malkin notes the Esparza crime and other examples of INS standard procedure of "catch and release" in violation of law. Sentencing Update: On April 8, 2003, Esparza was sentenced to life in prison without parole. The sentence was a deal worked out with the prosecution to avoid a trial with the possibility of the death penalty. Klamath County District Attorney Ed Caleb said that he wanted to avoid forcing the other nun who had been attacked to testify. In addition, Caleb sent a bill to the Mexican consulate for the cost of investigating and prosecuting the case. Not much chance of getting any money, but it is a reasonable gesture.

For more crimes of officer's and citizens, if you can bear it:

The Human Cost- It seems we are all Disposable to Washington!

21 posted on 09/27/2003 7:28:57 PM PDT by JustPiper (Who is Minding Our Border's!!! 1-800- Shock Fences!!!)
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To: 4Freedom
Only on our side of the street Freedom! We were standing in front of the Fed Bldg, 'they' got the plaza!
22 posted on 09/27/2003 7:30:59 PM PDT by JustPiper (Who is Minding Our Border's!!! 1-800- Shock Fences!!!)
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To: All
There was a post the other day that included an actual letter a Freep member received from the FBI in response to an attempt to report ILLEGAL aliens. I believe that is where a web site was given for DHS/BICE which can be used to report ILLEGAL aliens. I cannot find where I saved the info and went googling. I ran across this (below). If someone has a link to the thread with the FBI letter please post it. Thanks.

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA Date Stamp: 09/06/2002 February 10, 2003. FEDERAL COURT WASHINGTON, D.C.:District of Columbia JUDGE: Richard J. Leon

MR. JOSEPH A.F. SADOWSKI PLAINTIFF

against

GEORGE W. BUSH: President, United States.

And,

TOMMY G. THOMPSON: Secretary, . U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

And,

JOHN D. ASHCROFT, ESQ. Attorney General of the United States U.S. Department of Justice

Mr. Sadowski heads an organization called Sachem Quality of Life (SQL). They actually sued to get immigration laws enforced. Gee, I hope they weren't arrested for a hate crime.

23 posted on 09/27/2003 7:34:47 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: 4Freedom
What happens when the new people don't assimilate? What happens to our Constitution and our freedoms and rights?
24 posted on 09/27/2003 7:36:05 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: JustPiper
You poor darling. You were very brave and patriotic, and we all appreciate your efforts. Thank you, and courage! YOU DONE GOOD!
25 posted on 09/27/2003 7:40:41 PM PDT by truthkeeper
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Letter From the FBI:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/988852/posts
26 posted on 09/27/2003 7:42:55 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: JustPiper
Thats just a drop in the bucket, believe me.

Great job today, by the way.

27 posted on 09/27/2003 7:44:48 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: engrpat
What are the odds I will get a reply, positive or not?

I regularly email, fax and phone them on this issue. Occasionally they respond tho not often. Basically I get schmooze for feedback. They all support it...business puts alot of cash into their campaigns to keep it that way.

I let them know I'm watching...it may not be much, but if we all did that.....
28 posted on 09/27/2003 7:49:28 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: JustPiper
LOL...BTT
29 posted on 09/27/2003 7:49:29 PM PDT by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: vikingcelt
That they JUST DON'T CARE

Yes they do...come election time. When Bush first came into office, we blitzed him when he was meeting with Fox and talking amnesty. He backed off in a hurry. The trick is NUMBERS! We all have to be willing to give ten minutes of our time to the issue.
30 posted on 09/27/2003 7:51:26 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: JustPiper
I'll tellya Freeper's it broke my heart to listen to all their demands and see their solidarity, Our fight is cut out for us!

Hoooyah. Big money behind this illegal movement. Let's face it, they buy off our politicians every election. We can't give up and we must never let them forget.

Sorry for your circumstances. Must have been knarly!

That sounds like the type of illegal we get here in Vegas. Not that proverbial, "decent family man just trying to feed his family," but wisea$$ twenty something Chicano's with attitudes and an insult for every white woman. They travel in groups here...you have to be very careful where you are after dark.
31 posted on 09/27/2003 7:56:45 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
There seems to have been a shift on this forum regarding illegals, lots of new faces, lotta anger, somethings going on.
32 posted on 09/27/2003 7:56:52 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: JustPiper
Well, I can't say I wasn't expecting that answer. You are only tax paying citizens, you know? ;^)
33 posted on 09/27/2003 8:00:55 PM PDT by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: All
Please note how the "activist" and "hardworkers" treated JustPiper and her young daughter.

I can't wait to see the rotten AP story tomorrow.

34 posted on 09/27/2003 8:02:57 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Brought this over from LP:

Title: IMMIGRANTS on tour to fight for EQUAL RIGHTS: FREEDOM BUS RIDES, organized by unions with an eye on potential members, will travel to Washington, D.C. and New York City for rallies.
Source: The Miami Herald (Miami, Florida)
URL Source: http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/local/6871627.htm? template=contentModules/printstory.jsp
Published: Sep 27, 2003
Author: Richard Brand
Post Date: 2003-09-27 22:52:48 by blackhorse

















Posted on Sat, Sep. 27, 2003


MIAMI Immigrants on tour to fight for equal rights 'Freedom bus' rides, organized by unions with an eye on potential members, will travel to Washington, D.C., and New York City for rallies. BY RICHARD BRAND rbrand@herald.com

The ''freedom bus rides'' departing this morning from downtown Miami and other cities across America are being billed as protests for undocumented immigrant workers' rights.

But they are as much about the labor unions that have organized the campaign, reaching out to a constituency once regarded as a threat.

Following the method of the 1960s freedom bus riders who crisscrossed America seeking civil rights for blacks, the riders from Florida will travel across the South for eight days on their way to Washington, D.C., and New York City for rallies. They are criticizing President Bush's immigration policies, demanding the right to reunite families split by immigration laws, protection of workers' rights regardless of legal status and creation of a more streamlined process to legalize immigrants.

''When you come in here, they don't treat you well,'' said Marie Sylvain, 47, who came from Haiti by boat 22 years ago, leaving her children behind. She is riding on the bus to demand reunification of immigrant families.

The rides, which have been organized by a coalition of labor unions and immigrant rights groups, underscore a recent shift in policy by unions in favor of immigrants.

For decades, most unions sought tighter immigration restrictions out of fear that a flood of low-income workers would reduce wages of members. Those same unions are now embracing an estimated nine million undocumented immigrants across the country as a new pool for recruitment.

The shift comes at a time when union rolls and political clout are declining, largely because of reductions in the number of blue-collar manufacturing jobs that once formed a union power base.

''They're struggling to organize, and this plays into expanding their union membership,'' said Harry Katz, a professor at the Cornell University School of Industrial and Labor Relations. ``In that sense, it's self-serving.''

The major policy reversal became official in February 2000 when the AFL-CIO, which serves an an umbrella organization for many unions, reversed its historic anti-immigration stance.

The bus rides show that new pro-immigrant policy being put into action. Some union leaders say they hope it translates into more clout at the ballot box.

''If more undocumented workers became voters, we'd see a dramatic shift in public policy,'' said Monica Russo, president of the Service Employees International Union's Florida chapter, one of the Miami bus organizers.

One of the riders will be Rose Assinthe, a healthcare worker at a nursing home who is a member of the Service Employees International Union.

She has taken two weeks of unpaid vacation to make the trip.

''In the United States, we have to fight for everything,'' said Assinthe, a Haitian immigrant. ``I am going to Washington to tell our story, and let people know what we go through.''

While the freedom ride organizers say that the buses will carry undocumented workers, fewer than 10 of the 60 riders on the Miami bus are undocumented.

The majority are union leaders, union members and documented immigrants.

Organizers would not identify the undocumented workers before the ride out of concern that publication of their names could result in legal troubles.

Two weeks ago, riders on the Miami bus were instructed not to reveal their immigration status -- undocumented or otherwise -- to news reporters or even to fellow riders.

All riders were also required to sign a waiver saying they understood the ``risks related to immigration matters.''

The waiver, a copy of which was obtained by The Herald, released organizers from liability if participants are deported.

Organizers say they are worried about protests against the bus, saying hate groups such as the Ku Klux Klan have promised a ''rolling blockade'' to slow passage through Florida.

But the most formidable opposition may come in Washington, where some policymakers and pundits have criticized the bus rides as a ploy to reward illegal behavior.

''Any event that advertises the participation of illegal aliens ought to be raided, and the illegal aliens deported,'' said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, which advocates tighter restrictions on immigrants.

Buses are also departing this week from Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Houston, Chicago, Minneapolis and Boston.

The Miami bus on the ''Road to Citizenship'' will make stops in five states along the way to Washington to highlight issues specific to immigrants in the region.


35 posted on 09/27/2003 8:03:54 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: hedgetrimmer
All very good questions, HT.

Unfortunately, none of the answers to your questions are important to this administration.

All they want to know is how soon can they be ready to vote, how many times can they vote and who for?

36 posted on 09/27/2003 8:05:07 PM PDT by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
"The trick is NUMBERS! We all have to be willing to give ten minutes of our time to the issue"

You are so right!
37 posted on 09/27/2003 8:05:28 PM PDT by Be active
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To: JustPiper
Sounds like a circus up there in Chicago. Hard to believe its part of the mid-west.

A fellow machinist and I had a long talk friday with the president of our local (Lodge 837 International Association of Machinist and Aerospace Workers) expressing our outrage that the AFL-CIO has put our money into this "ride". He agreed with us that this was not right. He even said that a guy from the International was pestering him and other Locals here in Missouri to each kick in $500.00 to this event to house these radicals. Our president said "no thanks" to this bozo. We thanked him and at the very least our Local President will remember this when someone from the International comes around looking for sponsors. So I guess thats the only good news I can give you.

Turns out we are smack in the middle of a damn white supremacist group!!!

Its pretty sad when the nazis are the only ones showing up in numbers to defend this country.

Good job anyway. We can only hope Tancredo bottles amnesty up in the House of Representitves.

38 posted on 09/27/2003 8:05:48 PM PDT by Missouri (I picked two good tomatos out of my own garden today with no help from illegals)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Bleeding heart "Freedom Ride" article # 1,462.

UGH.

39 posted on 09/27/2003 8:18:01 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: Missouri
Picking your own tomatos??? The next thing you'll be confessing to is mowing your own lawn. ;^)
40 posted on 09/27/2003 8:31:45 PM PDT by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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