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To: skeeter
I don't mean to be contentious, but when has the CA GOP ever gone for the long play?

CA is so far left, I assume a long play is merely entering the race.

Whats more, I think the difference between your's & my view of the electorate is you think they're ideology static, and I think they can be swayed.

Of course they can be swayed. They get swayed each and every day. But when it comes time to vote, they are what they are. You will not get them to move any farther than where they are and currently they are not even in the same universe as you and Tom are.

All it takes is someone willing to unapologetically LEAD. This is what is so frustrating.

Lets look at history. Probably there is no better leader, and pursuader to walk the earth than Jesus Christ. He managed to convince a few people that he was not only right but that he was God. He even had perfect press when he entered Jursalem.

But when it was put to a vote, the people hadn't really moved that far from their personal posistions. That takes time. So the vote went for Barabas over Jesus.

Lets try another. Lets look at Moses. He led the people out of slavery, he showed them that God would supply their daily needs with manna from heaven. When it came time for them to vote, they melted their gold and made the calf to worship.

So, I think you are wrong. I don't believe that a leader can change the hearts and minds of people in the few short weeks that lead up to an election.

110 posted on 09/26/2003 1:08:25 PM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: VRWC_minion
So, I think you are wrong. I don't believe that a leader can change the hearts and minds of people in the few short weeks that lead up to an election.

On the contrary, its the only time they pay attention.

125 posted on 09/26/2003 1:15:09 PM PDT by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: VRWC_minion
Lets look at history. Probably there is no better leader, and pursuader to walk the earth than Jesus Christ. He managed to convince a few people that he was not only right but that he was God. He even had perfect press when he entered Jursalem.

But when it was put to a vote, the people hadn't really moved that far from their personal posistions. That takes time. So the vote went for Barabas over Jesus.

This is an apt example and I will answer your challenge. Jesus had a large following, the apex of which was when He triumphantly entered Jerusalem. However, He was a threat to the political powers of Israel. You see, it wasn't that they liked Rome, it was that Rome allowed them to rule so as to keep the peace. If Jesus stirred up trouble, Rome could come and do away with the self-rule (and them personally). It was the chief priests and the pharisees who put Jesus on trial and handed Him over to Roman authority. It was their followers who called for Barrabas.

This is important... they made a political calculation to cut Jesus loose to save their own skins.

Thank you for a great lead in to a lesson on this recall election.

126 posted on 09/26/2003 1:17:36 PM PDT by pgyanke (We wouldn't have to fight our War on Terror if Islam would take out its own trash!)
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