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Please don't ever respond to me again as you have no pain in war deaths among your family or long lasting injuries that you have had to deal with that they don't make movies about.

If you want- in between "praying" for Bush- say a prayer for my Grandfather and for, Great Uncle Father Jim, and Great Uncle Frank who all served their country but wish they didn't.

I notice that all of your relatives who served are at least two generations in the past. Weak. REALLY WEAK.

Every male member of my family has served since the Civil War. Some died in action. Others wounded. So what? I didn't join because of them, and I didn't avoid service because of their experiences. I joined because I wanted to serve my country. It's called patriotism. What you espouse is parasitic enjoyment of the American system without giving anything in return.

There's a big difference between excuses and reasons. You only use excuses.

If I see you posting on military issues in the future, I'll be on you like white on rice. You're not qualified to have any input on the subject.

Let me get this straight:

You were never in the military. (That's OK in general... this isn't Heinlein where you need to serve to be a citizen. Many serve the nation in other ways, and God bless 'em for it).
Your opinion of today's military: "welfare recipients" and "whiners". This opinion is obviously not based on first-hand experience, but apparently upon your analysis of the entertainments offered up by television's news departments. (The thought that the people doing the whining might not be the people doing the fighting seems to have eluded you. As well, the thought that reporters who share your isolationism might select their interviewees accordingly).
You try to fortify your opinions by calling on memories of ancient and remote relatives, seeking sympathy by pleading victimization as a proxy for them (I wonder how they would feel about you doing this?). I don't run a system of political apartheid here, where everyone has a classification stamped on him, but I note that the victimization ploy that you employ with such relish, is normally associated with a certain political ideology.
You are quick on the trigger with names for people who disagree with you; the names trip so smoothly from your lips that one suspects that you are a party to some discussion elsewhere where these recondite codes (ISTR one of them is "war-lover") are freighted with real meaning.
You set yourself up as the arbiter of who is conservative and who isn't. (I knew somebody had that political apartheid classification thing underway). Some free and doubtless unwelcome advice follows: Dude, you can only be the Great Grand Satrap to those that join your little organisation (you know, join up, like you didn't do to the military). There is no Scoutmaster bewstowing the title of conservative on folks who have amassed all the necessary merit badges -- and if there was, it mightn't be you.

It is funny that you think that not serving in the military doesn't make you unfit to comment on war. but not having a grandfather and great uncles (!) who suffered makes another poster unfit. That is exactly what you said:

don't ever respond to me again as you have no pain in war deaths among your family or long lasting injuries... [snip] ...my [not-too-immediate relatives] who all served their country but wish they didn't.

By the way, are these elderly relatives on record anywhere saying that they "wish they didn't" serve their country? I know a lot of guys who wish they hadn't been hit (a group which includes just about everybody that ever got hit.. see, it hurts), but they don't take the next step that you do. And if you are speaking of the desires of the dead, John Edward (the phoney medium, not the phoney candidate) doesn't need the competition. I strongly suspect that you are putting your words in the mouths of Grandpa and Great Uncles Father Jim and Frank. If that's the case, it's simply despicable, because it demeans and degrades their sacrifice.

You are also making one hell of an assumption, that you are the only one on this board that has experienced the "pain" of war. Don't mistake an unwillingness to wallow in an unseemly, frothy bath of it, for ignorance or inexperience of such suffering.

d.o.l.

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Please don't ever respond to me again as you have no pain in war deaths among your family or long lasting injuries that you have had to deal with that they don't make movies about.

You were injured as a welfare-recipient?