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To: fqued
"Conservatives were wary of Schwarzenegger even before Tax 'em and Kill 'em Buffett joined the campaign. Schwarzenegger claims to be a fiscal conservative and a liberal on social issues. Historically, that means: "liberal."" - Ann Coulter

"Here me now and believe me later, my friends: all these conservative orgasms over Arnold Schwarzenegger are – like the 'Gorbasms' liberals experienced over Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbachev – fake. I know that 'R' next to Schwarzenegger's name excites the White House, but his own words prove he's not a conservative. I call this 'The Hollywood Syndrome,' and it happens every time some actor-type says anything even remotely conservative. I'm not trying to cold shower anybody here, but don't look to anyone in Hollywood to validate your political ideas." - Rush Limbaugh

Just what are those views that prove that Arnold is a liberal? Here they are again:

A liberal by any other name is still a liberal. A Republican who does not believe in Republican values is still a RINO. You can paint a liberal in moderate colors, put an (R) after his name, but he's still a liberal.

Oh, Arnold may not be quite as liberal as the liberal extremists you saw on stage with him last night, but nevertheless he holds a majority of liberal positions and is therefore a liberal.

I know you and others don't like the fact that he is a liberal. But, he is.

He's certainly no conservative. That argument died here log ago after I and other posters started posting his very unconservative views. Now the prevailing argument here is that Arnold is a "moderate" or "centrist" or not as liberal as the other liberals. Well, actually the prevailing argument is "McClintock is unelectable", but if you get an Arniebot to go further than that (which is rare) he'll argume the former points as if they are even laudable.

123 posted on 09/25/2003 4:23:57 PM PDT by Spiff (Have you committed one random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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To: Spiff
Yawn, more misquotes and out of context quotes.

FYI Ann Coulter endorsed Schwazenegger a long time ago. You were quoting her out of context too.
132 posted on 09/25/2003 4:29:19 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Spiff; fqued
Arnold is not anti-second amendment. He also stated the following....

"Outlawing guns is not the right method of eliminating the problem. If you outlaw guns, people will still have them illegally. In Europe, they're outlawed everywhere. They have very strict gun control in Italy. Yet the Pope was shot. They have very strict gun control in Germany. Yet you see pimps shooting one another."

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/968440/posts
160 posted on 09/25/2003 4:40:35 PM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: Spiff
An amusing exercise is to line up the various cosnervative talk-show hosts and commentators pro or con Arny:

You mentioned a couple con: Coulter and Limbaugh

on the pro side, though: Hugh Hewitt, Hannity, and apparently also Medved and Ingraham.

Anyone want to add to the lists??
173 posted on 09/25/2003 4:47:32 PM PDT by fqued (facts are nasty little things, but that doesn't mean we should squash them)
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To: Spiff
An amusing exercise is to line up the various conservative talk-show hosts and commentators pro or con Arny:

You mentioned a couple con: Coulter and Limbaugh

on the pro side, though: Hugh Hewitt, Hannity, and apparently also Medved and Ingraham.

Anyone want to add to the lists??
174 posted on 09/25/2003 4:47:33 PM PDT by fqued (facts are nasty little things, but that doesn't mean we should squash them)
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To: Spiff
An amusing exercise is to line up the various conservative talk-show hosts and commentators pro or con Arny:

You mentioned a couple con: Coulter and Limbaugh

on the pro side, though: Hugh Hewitt, Hannity, and apparently also Medved and Ingraham.

Anyone want to add to the lists? Only nationally-knowns count.
177 posted on 09/25/2003 4:48:20 PM PDT by fqued (facts are nasty little things, but that doesn't mean we should squash them)
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To: Spiff
Governor Schwarzenegger will make California the economic powerhouse it should be. You can take that to the back now. Invest early!
299 posted on 09/25/2003 7:28:15 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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