California recall: Does one man hold key? [McClintock]

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[Spiff]

Well I thought (Ross)nold's whole campaign was entirely based on his ability to provide "Leadership" in making "all the politicians in the Legislature work together." That Hollywood image bombed at the box office last night courtesy of Arriana's jabs and his ineffectual responses. So the only real spoiler in this is an (R)nold victory.

Your forgot that (R)nold is also going to "clean house up dere" among his other substantive plans.

[ambrose]

Wilson was a lousy governor. If you feel that Tom is wrong on this, then please tell us why.

[BibChr]

I didn't love Pete Wilson, but at the end he held TOTALLY firm against Demo money madness, and it was he who left the BUDGET SURPLUS that Davis and the Demo's spent into -- and beneath -- the ground.

[BibChr]

You're a shill. Ding! Your time is up.

[BonnieJ]

He apparently has made a wide range of promises about what he will do in this short campaign. He'll have to choose which one he'll actually honor.

[Tamzee]

Tom and Arnold have very differing agendas as to political "careers."

Good point! Tom's out for a promotion... Arnold's giving up several million a year because he wants to serve California. Hmmmmmmm... ;-)

[B Knotts]

"Great parties are built on great principles," says McClintock, referring to the pillars of conservative policy: holding down taxes, cutting waste, standing up for the unborn, and resisting government approval of gay unions. "This is not a time to change our principles."

The kind of stuff that used to get pretty much unanimous support on this web site. Alas...no longer.

[Tamzee]

Tom McClintock never uttered the words

He doesn't have to... his actions show total contempt for the GOP.

[ambrose]

You're a shill.

And I have yet to see you on a recall thread where you haven't made a venomous personal attack on a fellow Freeper for simply having the temerity of supporting the only pro-life candidate in this race. Amazing.

[NittanyLion]

McC cares more about principles rather than winning -- said it himself.

How contemptible! My parents always taught me that doing what's right isn't important - being popular is. Always be swayed by peer pressure, my Mom used to say...

[PhiKapMom]

You all should have listened to Hedgecock's show because McC was one nasty politician a few minutes ago. If that is his supporters idea of what a "true" conservative candidate should be, then count me out of any "true" conservative movement. Just call me a plain old Republican conservative -- want no part of the group supporting this man! I cannot believe what I just heard!

He is arrogant, demeaning to others, and has absolutely no intention of reaching out to anyone except people that agree with him 100%! He is staying in the race because he hates Wilson and Wilson is advising Arnold. He attacks on Wilson as the worst Governor in CA history boggles my mind. I was there under Gov Moonbeam!

He is not a team player and I am so glad I heard this interview because every thing I was saying nice about McC after the debate last night I take back! This man is an all or nothing conservative and lends more credibility to the statement that he is a libertarian leaning Republican.

[Spiff]

Good point! Tom's out for a promotion... Arnold's giving up several million a year because he wants to serve California. Hmmmmmmm... ;-)

Liberalism will not save California. Arnold is clearly a liberal.

Conservatism will save California.

If you believe that liberalism has any hope of doing anything other than destroying California, then you too are a liberal.

[FairOpinion]

McClintock is a perfect example of those Reagan called "radical conservatives".

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"When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn't like it.

"Compromise" was a dirty word to them and they wouldn't face the fact that we couldn't get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don't get it all, some said, don't take anything.

"I'd learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: 'I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.'

"If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that's what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.

--- Ronald Reagan

[Chancellor Palpatine]

From the caption on your photo:

McClintock-"Just stop right there. You're trying to say that you have the power to enter a room and make all parties work together? Look, you're getting bested by a hack writer with no political power, for gosh sakes. What do you think is going to happen when you're in a room with 79 Jackie Goldbergs screaming for their slice of the spending pie?"

Arnold's best answer:

"I dunno Tom, I thought I'd follow your example. I'll start by telling everybody that they're stupid, that I'm the only one with real answers, and that I don't care what any other proposals were, I'm doing it my way or not at all."

[EggsAckley]

He is arrogant, demeaning to others, and has absolutely no intention of reaching out to anyone except people that agree with him 100%!

That description perfectly fits a number of TomBots here (who shall remain nameless.)

[NittanyLion]

Utterly reject the idea that conservatives should allow liberal Republicans to receive the nod in every race.

The man's a monster! I've heard about people like that, but I always assumed it was urban legend. The horror...

[massadvj]

You're a shill. Ding! Your time is up.

Click my monicker. I've been posting on this forum even longer than you have. I remember when it was a conservative site with no apparent affiliation with Republicanism. Now it's just a megaphone for the Republican party and their lackeys who think politics is some sort of game, and resort to name-calling when they can't think of principled, cogent retorts.

[PhiKapMom]

So you think that Wilson was the worst Governor in California history. It was the arrogant way he said it as well. Maybe you like arrogance in a candidate but I sure don't! His all my way or no way is not the way to solve the State's problems. Sorry you don't see it that way.

Suggest you check out #43!

[alloysteel]

Do not discount the fact that about five days before the election, the Democrats will do a data dump on Arnold, with every accusation true and untrue, factually possible or not, whether even any degree of plausibility exists at all, into every media in California and any peripheral areas, in an effort to swamp Arnold's campaign.

Arnold shall have no opportunity to deliver his own message, as he will be trying to put out the fires. Does anybody recall the DUI splash on Dubya that was put out on the eve of the November 2000 election? That almost worked.

[massadvj]

He doesn't have to... his actions show total contempt for the GOP.

Well, I hate to point it out, but lately the GOP has shown total contempt for conservatives, so I guess it's a two way street.