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California recall: Does one man hold key? [McClintock]
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 9-25 | Christian Science Monitor

Posted on 09/25/2003 2:54:50 PM PDT by ambrose

The Christian Science Monitor - csmonitor.com

from the September 26, 2003 edition - http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0926/p01s03-uspo.html

California recall: Does one man hold key?

Tom McClintock, top GOP conservative, could tilt race for or against Arnold Schwarzenegger.

By Daniel B. Wood | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

BURBANK, CALIF. - Republican candidate Tom McClintock laughs from deep in the belly when asked if he will be the "spoiler" in the great populist revolution/experiment/circus of California's gubernatorial recall election.

"My opponents say I'm the Ross Perot of this campaign, possibly siphoning off enough votes to hand the election to Democrats," he says, settling onto a shady park bench for an interview. "I say, 'Wait a minute.... Ross Perot was an idle millionaire, with no public-policy experience who one day on a whim entered the presidential race.' That sounds like another candidate in this race ... not me," he says, referring to muscleman/millionaire Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Once a mere asterisk in the con- fused calculus of California's 135-candidate recall election, Mr. McClintock has gradually emerged as the strong, third-place vote getter in polls - rising (at 14-to-18 points) while the two leaders - fellow Republican Schwarzenegger (26 points) and Democratic Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante (28 points) - tread water.

As the race enters its final stretch, McClintock's motives and acts are becoming paramount for two reasons. One, splitting the Republican vote, he could cost the party its best chance in a decade of high, statewide office. Two, his candidacy could drag down the success of the recall itself by forcing Republican partisans to reconsider driving Gov. Gray Davis from office because of fear that they could hand the office to a more liberal Democrat, Mr. Bustamante.

Ever since McClintock leaped from 4 percent voter support to double-digits about three weeks ago, the pressure has risen for him to stop offering himself as an alternative to Arnold Schwarzen-egger that could hand the election to Democrats. But as more voters get to know him, his poll numbers have continued to rise, while Schwarzenegger's are flat.

More conservative than Schwarzenegger on social issues - abortion, gay marriage, gun control - he is also far more experienced in fiscal matters, with California's sagging economy the No. 1 issue.

"He is by far the most studied and experienced of all the candidates in fiscal issues and how to implement public policy," says Jack Pitney, political scientist at Claremont McKenna College. "If the election were a college SAT test, McClintock would be the next governor hands down."

Even though he is widely acknowledged as the more knowledgeable, the more articulate, and the more detailed idea-man, 25-year government veteran McClintock does not have the millions of dollars of his chief Republican rival, nor his name recognition. Therein lies one of the chief ironies of the recall: Does he/should he/will he step aside to allow the neophyte challenger - and the Republican party - to gain its best chance of victory?

"He is a man who stands on his word and his principles while claiming time and again that he is in this to the last," says Doug Jeffe, a longtime California political consultant. "If he did get out, it would be totally uncharacteristic of him."

Now, with Schwarzenegger and Bustamante in a near dead heat, one leading Republican, Darrell Issa, the millionaire who bankrolled the signature gathering to oust Davis, has said that if Schwarzenegger or McClintock don't back off, Republicans should vote "no" on the recall. Polls show that if Arnold backed out, McClintock could not win.

But McClintock rejects a widespread analysis that conservative candidates have brought Republican fortunes to their low ebb. He feels the current crisis is the perfect storm for their historic comeback.

"Great parties are built on great principles," says McClintock, referring to the pillars of conservative policy: holding down taxes, cutting waste, standing up for the unborn, and resisting government approval of gay unions. "This is not a time to change our principles."

While such comments win kudos from some for adherence to principle, they strike others as bullheaded.

"McClintock's constant megaphoning of conservative social agendas is presenting a real problem for Republicans who really like him for his fiscal experience," says William Schneider, a pollster and political analyst. "They know Tom has the smarts to get this state out of economic problems and they worry about Arnold's lack of experience and specificity. But they don't think Tom can win and can't resist the fact that Arnold could."

As a child, McClintock campaigned for Barry Goldwater at age 8. In high school he organized classmates into a statewide GOP group. A political-science graduate of UCLA, he became a syndicated columnist railing about former Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown, lauding the character of John Wayne. Hired by a former L.A. police chief-cum-state senator (Ed Davis), McClintock began a 25-year career in Sacramento, marked by opposition to Republican governors George Deukmejian and Pete Wilson over tax hikes and spending waste.

Despite his conservative stances, he was the top GOP vote-getter in the state, running for controller, in the 2002 election.

"I got very little from the state GOP and was outspent by my opponent by 5 to 1," says McClintock. "Despite all that, I lost by less than 1 percent of the vote."

A man who often quotes Reagan and Shakespeare, McClintock is considered a legislative loner with few legislative friends for his near two-decade pursuit of shrinking the state payroll.

In his favorite stump speech he tells why cutting is so important. As a child, he came home from school to find his mother crying over an unexpectedly high tax bill. The moment has lived in his imagination ever since that government takes too much from citizens and delivers too little.

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To: fqued
He said it on Fox News.

It's been posted and argued about in the past month here more times than I can count.

But he said it.

Arnold is no moderate. Moderates don't support abortion on demand, further erosion of the Second Amendment, the radical gay agenda, more and bigger spending programs for an already-bloated education establishment, etc.
101 posted on 09/25/2003 4:12:43 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Call upon God to move on our behalf...)
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To: habs4ever
I read there are rumors his own constituency won't support his reelection bid.

102 posted on 09/25/2003 4:12:47 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: ProtectorOfTwo
Serious change always starts with serious people. Is the party doing what is best for the party, or what is best for the State of California?

Keeping cruz bustamante from becoming California's next governor is what's best for both. Tom staying in and helping elect cruz doesn't help either.

103 posted on 09/25/2003 4:13:13 PM PDT by South40 (Vote Mcclintock, elect bustamante)
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To: FairOpinion
I read there are rumors his own constituency won't support his reelection bid.

LOL...you guys crack me up!

104 posted on 09/25/2003 4:14:24 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Call upon God to move on our behalf...)
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To: JustAnAmerican
Let me just pick out one thing from your litany.

You say that Arny is pro-socialist. That sounds nice and inflammatory, but . . .
What do you mean? actually he is pro-capitalist. Give us th evidence that he is pro-socialist.

If you mean he cares about some social concerns, fine, but socialist means that the government controls the means of production. there is no evidence that Arny believes that.
105 posted on 09/25/2003 4:14:45 PM PDT by fqued (Arma virumque cano)
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To: capitan_refugio
McClintock occupies a safe State Senate seat and is popular in his district

Listening to Larry Elder on the way home. He opined that eventually term limits will smack Tom McClintock in the rear. Then he'll have to get a real job.

Tom's name will rightly be mud by then. The CA state GOP will never back him and almost all Republicans in CA have very poor feelings towards him right now. I personally would never vote for him.

106 posted on 09/25/2003 4:14:50 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I'm voting for Arnold. McClintock doesn't deserve my vote!)
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To: PhiKapMom
I am listening to Roger Hedgecock and heard Tom.
He sounded more like Jim Jones than Ronald Reagan.

Tom looked good last night. The red tie helped.

Roger has been a staunch supporter and the closest thing to a friend Tom has had in the media.

For Roger to say after today"s chat with Tom that
"My conclusion is, I made the right decision endorsing Arnold," it meant a LOT.
He said "It's Tom's ATTITUDE that makes him a loser,
and it's Arnold's ATTITUDE that makes him a winner."

Simon was on and said he spent 9 million of his own dollars trying to defeat the Davis administration.



107 posted on 09/25/2003 4:14:57 PM PDT by b9
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To: EternalVigilance
"Arnold calls himself a liberal. "

===

More lies about Arnold.


Here is the truth:

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From Arnold's speech at the Republican Convention:


What I saw in Austria made me anti-communist. What I saw in California made me a free-enterprise, fiscally conservative Republican. Republican principles are what built California into the Golden State.

I came to America 35 years ago as an immigrant. By working playing by the rules, my immigrant dreams came true. I want other peoplhard and e to have the same chances, the same opportunities. I am a Republican because of what Ronald Reagan said – government bureaucrats can never substitute for millions of individuals working night and day to make their dreams come true.

That's what being a Republican means.

Let me tell you what being a conservative means to me.

I'm a conservative because I believe communism is evil and free enterprise is good.

I'm a conservative because Milton Friedman is right and Karl Marx was wrong.

I'm a conservative because I believe the government serves the people; the people don't serve the government.

I'm a conservative because I believe in balanced budgets, not budget deficits.

I'm a conservative because I believe the money that people earn is their money – not the government’s money.

And when you look at this driver's license outrage, I'm a conservative because I believe in the rule of law not in political pandering.

The driver's license issue is not about race; it's about law.

It's about a fair playing field. It's about living by the rules.

That's why people come to this country – because our laws mean something.

As governor, I promise you – our laws will mean something.

http://www.joinarnold.com/en/press/pressdetail.php?id=113
108 posted on 09/25/2003 4:16:14 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
I read there are rumors his own constituency won't support his reelection bid.

So, how does this work? Y'all start a rumor, pass it around as much as you can, then report the rumor as having some kind of relevence to the issue at hand...unbelievable...

109 posted on 09/25/2003 4:16:24 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Call upon God to move on our behalf...)
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To: EternalVigilance
Arnold is no moderate. Moderates don't support abortion on demand, further erosion of the Second Amendment, the radical gay agenda, more and bigger spending programs for an already-bloated education establishment, etc.

I'm the King of England. I say it, so it must be true. Who are you to judge what I am by using objective facts and by my actions?

110 posted on 09/25/2003 4:17:24 PM PDT by NittanyLion (Go Tom Go!)
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To: EternalVigilance
Oh, and why would that little factoid bother you?
111 posted on 09/25/2003 4:17:38 PM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: doodlelady
"My conclusion is, I made the right decision endorsing Arnold," it meant a LOT.

Simon on Larry Elder this afternoon reiterating his endorsement of Arnold. He appears to be as mystified as everyone else as to why Tom has taken a lose/lose path.

112 posted on 09/25/2003 4:17:59 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I'm voting for Arnold. McClintock doesn't deserve my vote!)
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To: fqued
What do you mean? actually he is pro-capitalist. Give us th evidence that he is pro-socialist.

Ever hear of afterschool babysitting?

113 posted on 09/25/2003 4:18:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Call upon God to move on our behalf...)
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To: ambrose
Why in the world can't anyone see that it could be ARNOLD that also holds a big KEY??? After the debate last night, everyone here kept saying that TOM won the debate, that TOM was more qualified, that TOM stood for what we stand for,(tough immigration, prop54, etc) . WHY in the NAME OF COMMON SENSE, doesn't ARNOLD hold just as BIG A KEY?? just because HIS NUMBERS ARE HIGHER?? If everyone who is mouthing down Tom McCLintock would stand behind him, it would be ARNOLD that would need to be STEPPING DOWN. As I see it, HE will be the one that lost the election to BUsto.....whether or not HE was ahead in the POLLS or not. I will NOT SELL MY SOUL for a mess of porridge!!!!!!!
114 posted on 09/25/2003 4:19:10 PM PDT by pollywog
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To: EternalVigilance
You wrote that Arny supports "further erosion of the Second Amendment"

You should have listened to his interview on sean Hannity today. Your statement implies far worse than Arny's position. Arny said that he uphold the second amendment, doesn't see any need for any more laws, but does believe (my words) that the present laws are not enforced, etc.

Is he an absolutist on the 2nd amendment? In my opinion, no. But is he anti-2nd amendment? again, NO.

115 posted on 09/25/2003 4:20:23 PM PDT by fqued (facts are nasty little things, but that doesn't mean we should squash them)
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To: BunnySlippers
Bill's been mystified by alot lately...
116 posted on 09/25/2003 4:20:28 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Call upon God to move on our behalf...)
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To: fqued
FYI,

[Socialism] was first applied in England to Owen's theory of social reconstruction, and in France to those also of St. Simon and Fourier . . . The word, however, is used with a great variety of meaning, . . . even by economists and learned critics. The general tendency is to regard as socialistic any interference undertaken by society on behalf of the poor, . . . radical social reform which disturbs the present system of private property . . . The tendency of the present socialism is more and more to ally itself with the most advanced democracy. --Encyc. Brit.

117 posted on 09/25/2003 4:21:23 PM PDT by JustAnAmerican
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To: EternalVigilance
It was in an article, but it wasn't the main topic, just a couple of sentences towards the end, so I am not going to be diggin trying to find it, but it was a statement by someone "in the know" ( they named the person, not some "unknown source").

Tom is finished in his own district.
How can someone run as a Republican when he does his best to undermine and foil a win for his own party.

He is done. Stick a fork in him. And he has nobody to blame but himself, although I am sure he will blame everyone, but himself.
118 posted on 09/25/2003 4:21:49 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: EternalVigilance
EternalVigilance, I am and WILL CONTINUE to " call upon God on our behalf".......even if we have 5 loaves and 2 fishes!!
119 posted on 09/25/2003 4:23:01 PM PDT by pollywog
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To: EternalVigilance; Tamsey
Today:

Jeb Bush quietly sent some of his best people to California to help on Arnold's campaign.

And don't think some of us won't remember that little factoid.

Tuesday:

Posted by EternalVigilance to redlipstick
On News/Activism 09/23/2003 11:13 AM EDT #192 of 391

I like Jeb Bush. Alot.

Eternal? Maybe.
Consistent? No.

120 posted on 09/25/2003 4:23:36 PM PDT by EllaMinnow
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