California recall: Does one man hold key? [McClintock]

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[EternalVigilance]

He said it on Fox News.

It's been posted and argued about in the past month here more times than I can count.

But he said it.

Arnold is no moderate. Moderates don't support abortion on demand, further erosion of the Second Amendment, the radical gay agenda, more and bigger spending programs for an already-bloated education establishment, etc.

[FairOpinion]

I read there are rumors his own constituency won't support his reelection bid.

[South40]

Serious change always starts with serious people. Is the party doing what is best for the party, or what is best for the State of California?

Keeping cruz bustamante from becoming California's next governor is what's best for both. Tom staying in and helping elect cruz doesn't help either.

[EternalVigilance]

I read there are rumors his own constituency won't support his reelection bid.

LOL...you guys crack me up!

[fqued]

Let me just pick out one thing from your litany.

You say that Arny is pro-socialist. That sounds nice and inflammatory, but . . .
What do you mean? actually he is pro-capitalist. Give us th evidence that he is pro-socialist.

If you mean he cares about some social concerns, fine, but socialist means that the government controls the means of production. there is no evidence that Arny believes that.

[BunnySlippers]

McClintock occupies a safe State Senate seat and is popular in his district

Listening to Larry Elder on the way home. He opined that eventually term limits will smack Tom McClintock in the rear. Then he'll have to get a real job.

Tom's name will rightly be mud by then. The CA state GOP will never back him and almost all Republicans in CA have very poor feelings towards him right now. I personally would never vote for him.

[b9]

I am listening to Roger Hedgecock and heard Tom.
He sounded more like Jim Jones than Ronald Reagan.

Tom looked good last night. The red tie helped.

Roger has been a staunch supporter and the closest thing to a friend Tom has had in the media.

For Roger to say after today"s chat with Tom that
"My conclusion is, I made the right decision endorsing Arnold," it meant a LOT.
He said "It's Tom's ATTITUDE that makes him a loser,
and it's Arnold's ATTITUDE that makes him a winner."

Simon was on and said he spent 9 million of his own dollars trying to defeat the Davis administration.

[FairOpinion]

"Arnold calls himself a liberal. "

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More lies about Arnold.


Here is the truth:

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From Arnold's speech at the Republican Convention:


What I saw in Austria made me anti-communist. What I saw in California made me a free-enterprise, fiscally conservative Republican. Republican principles are what built California into the Golden State.

I came to America 35 years ago as an immigrant. By working playing by the rules, my immigrant dreams came true. I want other peoplhard and e to have the same chances, the same opportunities. I am a Republican because of what Ronald Reagan said – government bureaucrats can never substitute for millions of individuals working night and day to make their dreams come true.

That's what being a Republican means.

Let me tell you what being a conservative means to me.

I'm a conservative because I believe communism is evil and free enterprise is good.

I'm a conservative because Milton Friedman is right and Karl Marx was wrong.

I'm a conservative because I believe the government serves the people; the people don't serve the government.

I'm a conservative because I believe in balanced budgets, not budget deficits.

I'm a conservative because I believe the money that people earn is their money – not the government’s money.

And when you look at this driver's license outrage, I'm a conservative because I believe in the rule of law not in political pandering.

The driver's license issue is not about race; it's about law.

It's about a fair playing field. It's about living by the rules.

That's why people come to this country – because our laws mean something.

As governor, I promise you – our laws will mean something.

http://www.joinarnold.com/en/press/pressdetail.php?id=113

[EternalVigilance]

I read there are rumors his own constituency won't support his reelection bid.

So, how does this work? Y'all start a rumor, pass it around as much as you can, then report the rumor as having some kind of relevence to the issue at hand...unbelievable...

[NittanyLion]

Arnold is no moderate. Moderates don't support abortion on demand, further erosion of the Second Amendment, the radical gay agenda, more and bigger spending programs for an already-bloated education establishment, etc.

I'm the King of England. I say it, so it must be true. Who are you to judge what I am by using objective facts and by my actions?

[Tamzee]

Oh, and why would that little factoid bother you?

[BunnySlippers]

"My conclusion is, I made the right decision endorsing Arnold," it meant a LOT.

Simon on Larry Elder this afternoon reiterating his endorsement of Arnold. He appears to be as mystified as everyone else as to why Tom has taken a lose/lose path.

[EternalVigilance]

What do you mean? actually he is pro-capitalist. Give us th evidence that he is pro-socialist.

Ever hear of afterschool babysitting?

[pollywog]

Why in the world can't anyone see that it could be ARNOLD that also holds a big KEY??? After the debate last night, everyone here kept saying that TOM won the debate, that TOM was more qualified, that TOM stood for what we stand for,(tough immigration, prop54, etc) . WHY in the NAME OF COMMON SENSE, doesn't ARNOLD hold just as BIG A KEY?? just because HIS NUMBERS ARE HIGHER?? If everyone who is mouthing down Tom McCLintock would stand behind him, it would be ARNOLD that would need to be STEPPING DOWN. As I see it, HE will be the one that lost the election to BUsto.....whether or not HE was ahead in the POLLS or not. I will NOT SELL MY SOUL for a mess of porridge!!!!!!!

[fqued]

You wrote that Arny supports "further erosion of the Second Amendment"

You should have listened to his interview on sean Hannity today. Your statement implies far worse than Arny's position. Arny said that he uphold the second amendment, doesn't see any need for any more laws, but does believe (my words) that the present laws are not enforced, etc.

Is he an absolutist on the 2nd amendment? In my opinion, no. But is he anti-2nd amendment? again, NO.

[EternalVigilance]

Bill's been mystified by alot lately...

[JustAnAmerican]

FYI,

[Socialism] was first applied in England to Owen's theory of social reconstruction, and in France to those also of St. Simon and Fourier . . . The word, however, is used with a great variety of meaning, . . . even by economists and learned critics. The general tendency is to regard as socialistic any interference undertaken by society on behalf of the poor, . . . radical social reform which disturbs the present system of private property . . . The tendency of the present socialism is more and more to ally itself with the most advanced democracy. --Encyc. Brit.

[FairOpinion]

It was in an article, but it wasn't the main topic, just a couple of sentences towards the end, so I am not going to be diggin trying to find it, but it was a statement by someone "in the know" ( they named the person, not some "unknown source").

Tom is finished in his own district.
How can someone run as a Republican when he does his best to undermine and foil a win for his own party.

He is done. Stick a fork in him. And he has nobody to blame but himself, although I am sure he will blame everyone, but himself.

[pollywog]

EternalVigilance, I am and WILL CONTINUE to " call upon God on our behalf".......even if we have 5 loaves and 2 fishes!!

[EllaMinnow]

Today:

Jeb Bush quietly sent some of his best people to California to help on Arnold's campaign.

And don't think some of us won't remember that little factoid.

Tuesday:

Posted by EternalVigilance to redlipstick
On News/Activism 09/23/2003 11:13 AM EDT #192 of 391

I like Jeb Bush. Alot.

Eternal? Maybe.
Consistent? No.