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An Analysis of Arnold Schwarzenegger's Environmental Policy
Arnold Schwarzenegger's Website / Vanity
| Sept. 23, 2003
| Mark Edward Vande Pol, aka, Carry_Okie
Posted on 09/23/2003 1:59:55 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie
I haven't even scratched the surface on this long read yet, but I have a question. Who do you think will allow another opinion/remedy to be heard or might allow any input.... Schwarzenegger or Bustamante?
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posted on
09/23/2003 8:50:02 PM PDT
by
AuntB
(Your rights stop where my nose starts!)
To: AuntB
Are you asking me if either one of those candidates would listen to what I'm saying? No way.
I really don't think there's any real chance that any candidate would hear a word of it even if he read it.
They're all obsessed right now.
I have one more quivver full of articles that is nearing completion. We'll see if it gets anybody's attention.
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posted on
09/23/2003 9:25:37 PM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by politics.)
To: BibChr
GeeZ! I can't believe you would believe that! Have you ever heard the words and terminolgy of rheoric and propaganda?
Carry is honestly trying to give an all points assessment......you are being concrete....not listening!
I have no further apathy or empathy for you, you will deserve what you vote for!
To: BibChr
You don't vote for Arnold, and you will help California suffer under far worse than a frog.You don't vote for McClintock, and you will help to ensure California continues its slick-skid rush to social liberal hell. It might happen even if you do vote for McClintock, but your conscience will at least be clear.
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posted on
09/23/2003 9:57:17 PM PDT
by
Kevin Curry
([Arnold's] lust for power is not rooted in strength, but in weakness)
To: Avoiding_Sulla
Gosh, that was so nice! I don't know what to say!
To: tubebender
"the few Rs elected to Sacremento will sign on with AS but battle Scruz and get consessions..."Very astute and correct!!!
106
posted on
09/23/2003 10:07:30 PM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(Forget Party Politics... Re-register "decline to state" and become truly Independent!!!)
To: Kevin Curry
Well at least we got some of them thinking. I really wish people understood how influential such regulatory powers are in the economy. It's the same batch of people who produced the power crisis as write crap like Arnold's plan.
If $42 billion in extra power costs don't get their attention, what will?
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posted on
09/23/2003 10:12:59 PM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by politics.)
To: Itzlzha
"...although I'm sure there are other RINO Wilsonista EnviroMENTALists there too."You've got it! They'll keep "Old Cuntry Arnold" so pumped full of this crappola and he'll spout it endlessly to us until we'll have to change his name to SchwarzeNAGGER!!!
Well... The "Win at any price crowd" is getting so ruthless that it may be a immaculate election if Tom can overcome the odds, but I still think Davis is gonna pull it off and survive this whole deal. I may be wrong, but this whole court coup dispirited a lot of voters, absentee and otherwise.
The courts keep mangling "The Will Of The People" repeatedly in CA like they did with Prop 187 and the Dems just laugh at the people they defeat with their corrupt judges. Eventually, the people just throw in the towell!!!
108
posted on
09/23/2003 10:19:38 PM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(Forget Party Politics... Re-register "decline to state" and become truly Independent!!!)
To: Carry_Okie
I really wish people understood how influential such regulatory powers are in the economyIt is a tax every bit as destructive and expensive (if not more) as income, property, or sales taxes. Arnold apparently has a low opinion of his supporters' intelligence.
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posted on
09/23/2003 10:25:44 PM PDT
by
Kevin Curry
([Arnold's] lust for power is not rooted in strength, but in weakness)
To: Carry_Okie
Outstanding work Mark. Stay well.
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posted on
09/23/2003 10:51:23 PM PDT
by
nunya bidness
(sic utere tuo ut alienum non laedas)
To: Carry_Okie
I agree. Arnold's plan has good intentions but it doesn't work cause it relies on command and control mechanisms rather than the free market to protect the environment. After all the decades of experience with government in charge, one would think he learned something. Perhaps its political pandering to the uninformed. I'd as soon see to it to these proposals never see the light of day.
111
posted on
09/24/2003 12:56:05 AM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: Carry_Okie
BTTT
112
posted on
09/24/2003 3:02:02 AM PDT
by
Roscoe
To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!!!!
113
posted on
09/24/2003 3:13:32 AM PDT
by
E.G.C.
To: Carry_Okie; sauropod; newriverSister
Ping!
To: Kevin Curry
It wouldn't do my conscience one good thing knowingly to throw my vote away on an empty, self-referential hollow gesture towards Tom McClintock, a man who knows he cannot win, who cannot lead his own party (let alone the state), and who has said anyway that he won't initiate any change on the status quo in re. abortion.
My conscience would not be helped by sacrificing hardworking families and enterpreneurs and the safety of our streets so that I can feel good about myself.
My conscience is connected to my brain, and is doing just fine in this regard, thank you.
I'm a bit concerned about yours, however.
Dan
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posted on
09/24/2003 5:21:42 AM PDT
by
BibChr
("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
To: Carry_Okie
BTTT
To: goldstategop; Avoiding_Sulla
The problem isn't as much as what he said as it is the people that he hired to say it. Those folks becoms staff to the governor. It's one thing to blather on in a newspaper about the stuff you read in which you would like to think you believe, it's another to make executive decisions to DO things that make you feel good. That's where we learn where Arnold really stands unfortunately because he is apt to situational thinking because he doesn't have a set of matured policies in mind. He wants to do great things. Unfortunately, coercion is a schematically simple concept to the uneducated. That's why he's a danger to California and to the conservative Republican Party.
In that respect alone, what he says in the campaign is untrustworthy. I am glad you took the opportunity to consider a different perspective. Thank you.
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posted on
09/24/2003 6:52:59 AM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(There are people in power who are truly evil.)
To: kidd
McClintock said he'd leave it up to the locals.
To: Carry_Okie; Roscoe; ambrose; ScottinSacto; ElkGroveDan; eldoradude
You know... to be bluntly honest, I'm upset at Tom over the Indian Gaming thing, but I'm more upset over this "plan" of Arnold's than I was when his "chief economic advisor" was denigrating Prop 13!!!
I can hold my nose over the Indian Gaming thing, but not this bizzare "plan!" That assumes that "Recall Yes," wins, which I'm not at all convinced will happen!!!
119
posted on
09/24/2003 12:24:36 PM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(Forget Party Politics... Re-register "decline to state" and become truly Independent!!!)
To: Carry_Okie
120
posted on
09/24/2003 2:04:02 PM PDT
by
Fred
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