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Ohio State's Maurice Clarett Sues NFL
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| September 23, 2003
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Posted on 09/23/2003 11:16:45 AM PDT by rftc
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To: Bikers4Bush
The league has the right to establish minimum requirements. Whatever groups Maurice Clarett associates with (underage people seems to be salient in this case) must not be discriminated against!</sarcasm>
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posted on
09/23/2003 11:28:43 AM PDT
by
conservatism_IS_compassion
(The everyday blessings of God are great--they just don't make "good copy.")
To: Bikers4Bush
The Spencer Haywood NBA case should strike the NFL rule down.
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posted on
09/23/2003 11:29:08 AM PDT
by
rftc
To: rftc
The kid is legally 18 years old and should have a right to earn a living, either in Europe, the CFL or NFL.. I am over 18. Can I sue the NFL, European NFL, or the CFL because they have violated my rights to make a living playing in one of their leagues?
No one has a right to play in the NFL. No one.
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posted on
09/23/2003 11:29:11 AM PDT
by
Phantom Lord
(Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
To: triplejake
That's the problem. They are not competing employers they are all one entity. There is a certain amount of revenue sharing that goes on which ties them to one another more than it divides them.
To: rftc
There's a difference between the right to earn a living and demanding someone be hired. He HAS the ability to earn a living, there are semi-pro leagues and internaitonal leagues with no ties to the NFL that have no age rule or different age rules (including the CFL). Or he can leave football entirely. What he does not have, what NO PERSON has, is the right to FORCE someone to hire him.
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posted on
09/23/2003 11:29:28 AM PDT
by
discostu
(just a tuna sandwich from another catering service)
To: rftc
See Spencer Haywood. He sued the NBA, now the gates are open. I'm thinking about submitting my 14 yr old daughter's name for the draft next year...we need some cash. haha
To: KevinDavis; discostu
Sorry the NFL is a private organization and they can set the rules in who to take and not to take. Also there is no right to earn a living.
Didn't the NBA lose a similar case around 10-15 years ago?
To: rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; Teacher317; ...
Funny enough, the judge who has drawn the case is legendary OSU coach Woody Hayes' son.
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posted on
09/23/2003 11:29:55 AM PDT
by
mhking
(Don't mess in the affairs of dragons; For you are crunchy, and taste great with ketchup...)
To: Stone Mountain
To my knowledge the NBA teams do not have a revenue sharing system set up, or at least did not at the time of that case.
To: Bikers4Bush
He is not going to lose...see MLB and NBA.
Noone has ever challenged the NFL because the issue will be moot by the time they are elgible for the draft...
To: rftc
Doesn't apply, different entities.
The NFL has revenue sharing and I don't believe that the NBA had it at the time of that case or has it now.
To: triplejake
From an employment perspective NFL teams are not competing employers. They are franchises, just like different McDonalds stores, they are functionally ONE employer with numerous sites but a common set of rules.
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posted on
09/23/2003 11:32:14 AM PDT
by
discostu
(just a tuna sandwich from another catering service)
To: Bikers4Bush
I don't think it much matters what happens in court. This kid if he gets into the NFL will either become the bad ass of the gridiron and smash everyone who takes a shot, which will be all of them including teammates, or he'll washout. I choose the latter.
To: Bikers4Bush
To my knowledge the NBA teams do not have a revenue sharing system set up, or at least did not at the time of that case.
Perhaps, but how is that relevent to the case? Are you saying that the courts made this decision to let younger players in specifically because of the revenue system that was in place at the time?
To: mhking
You think that was by chance? (that Woody Hayes's kid is the judge hearing the case-lol! )
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posted on
09/23/2003 11:33:51 AM PDT
by
rftc
To: discostu
What's the minimum standard? They already have juniors coming out early and let's face it, requiring college degrees for football players is well...... impractical to say the least given the reason the universities recruited them there to begin with. A job that requires some level of education is fine but what does that have to do with football? The NFL loses on this basis.
I don't see the NFL winning on this long term. Clarett may wind up in court for two years or more (The NFL is a big time hitter when it comes to litigation) but eventually, they are going to have to accept underclassmen.
To: rftc
Friggin' marvelous! Local talk radio will be worthless with buckeye BS all week instead of just the day before and after the next game.
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posted on
09/23/2003 11:34:59 AM PDT
by
Orangedog
(Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
To: r9etb
This kid needs to sack up, suck it up, and take responsibility for his actions. If he doesn't want to stay in school he can go play in the CFL. The NFL should not have to change it's rules to accomodate this kid. He has already proven he is irresponible, imagine what happens when he gets money and has his crew hangin' with him.
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posted on
09/23/2003 11:35:14 AM PDT
by
sean327
(Life is hard, it's even harder when your stupid. Sgt Striker-Sands of Iwo Jima)
To: Bikers4Bush
How does revenue sharing address the issue of Maurice being of legal age and not being able to compete in the NFL?
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posted on
09/23/2003 11:35:16 AM PDT
by
rftc
To: rftc
The kid is legally 18 years old and should have a right to earn a living, either in Europe, the CFL or NFL..Nobody is denying him the opportunity to earn a living. His "rights" are not being infringed.
The NFL, for what it's worth, has the right to put certain limitations on those who they employ. No different from the military or police or other organizations putting lower and upper limits on the ages of those who apply for their employ.
There might be a fight, but ultimately, the League and it's member teams can hire who they want. If he wants to play pro so bad, the CFL or Arena League could always use him.
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posted on
09/23/2003 11:35:23 AM PDT
by
mhking
(Don't mess in the affairs of dragons; For you are crunchy, and taste great with ketchup...)
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