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Tom McClintock - The conscience of a conservative?
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| Sept. 19, 2003
| Bob Chandra
Posted on 09/19/2003 8:56:57 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Godebert
The landscape is littered with Arnold's casualties, so a little friendly fire is to be expected. :)
281
posted on
09/20/2003 3:34:33 PM PDT
by
Roscoe
To: Saundra Duffy
Well, it was a ``trial balloon'' that didn't work out. Now that they've got that out of the way, they can worry about repealing Prop 13 later.
To: Dave S
I hear you.
I get it.
They don't.
Enough is enough... let them do what they threaten... leave...
Who needs em anyway?
Bush won without their votes last presidential... with all the crossovers from the middle class middle road conservatives... of both parties... we will win again.
adios righty tighties!
To: Bonaparte
Arnold Schwarzenegger is the most conservative candidate who can win.
That's who I am supporting and why, in one sentence.
Dan
284
posted on
09/20/2003 4:30:42 PM PDT
by
BibChr
("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
Comment #285 Removed by Moderator
To: EternalVigilance
YOU, as a keyes chairman at the time, may have had the presence of mind to vote for Bush. But most of your keyesnian friends around here did NOT. They bragged about their intention to NOT vote, as is their right... I might add that lots of them who were vocal about opposing President Bush, calling him a baby killer, were banned en masse...
Keyes as a whole is seen by lots of us "conservatives" as a betrayor of the republican party and is truly now experiencing his very own joyful wilderness experience.
To: BibChr
"Arnold Schwarzenegger is the most conservative candidate who can win."No, he's the liberal whom you prefer over the other liberal, Bustamante. And the reason you (and others) prefer that particular liberal is that he's got an "R" after his name. There's nothing remotely "conservative" about Schwarzenegger.
To: Bonaparte
If that's your sincere opinion, you have a personal problem I can't help. It isn't unavailability of facts, nor clarity of issues. It's that an unteachable person is... well, unteachable. And it looks like that's you.
Dan
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posted on
09/20/2003 5:08:28 PM PDT
by
BibChr
("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
To: Roscoe
289
posted on
09/20/2003 7:24:40 PM PDT
by
Kay Soze
(If punch card voting is not legal than Davis is not the Gov and Gore did not win California!)
To: BibChr
Characterizing me as "unteachable" and beset with "personal problems" is not an argument. It's an evasion.
To: Republican Wildcat; ninenot; ElkGroveDan; Canticle_of_Deborah; Saundra Duffy; Reagan Man; ...
You guys have no issues. That is the point of #14 to which you purport to respond. That some casino-owning Indian tribe spent some money to favor McClintock (who had for some years supported Indian causes in the State Senate) is their business. The Arnie paranoids see as off the subject anything not done in service to their collapsing candidate who refuses non-scripted debates, refuses discussion of issues and to the extent that positions have been pulled out of him, indicates his near identical positions on issues that matter with Bustamante and Doofus: abortion, lavender marriage subsidized by taxpayers; lavender adoptions of innocent children, tax hikes, spending hikes, gun control, opposition to Prop. 54 which would defang the racial quota racket by removing its tools, etc., etc. His association with the likes of Riordan, Wilson, Buffett and RFK, Jr., lead one to conclude show me Arnie's friends and I'll tell you what he is.
Meanwhile, the mesmerized Arnieites wander the landscape mumbling the mantra: Only Arnie can win! Only Arnie can win! Only Arnie can WIN!!!!" Totally bereft of legitimate public policy issues to justify this duplicitous clown as governor of California, you are now reduced 1) to calling "Only Arnie can WIN!!!!" an issue which it is not and will never be and 2) berating people who are actual conservatives for not wandering the landscape chanting: "Only Arnie can win!. Only Arnie can win. Only Arnie can WIN!!!! By damn why don't you care that only Arnie can WIN!!!!!??????"
Because there is not a dime's worth of difference on things that matter among ArnieCruzaDoofus. On social issues, they are three of a kind. On taxing and spending, they are three of a kind. No Republican worthy of the name and no conservative worthy of the name is gulled for one nanosecond into believing the rank nonsense that Arnie is actually a Republican much less an actual conservative. California uis going to continue its suffering unless and until it elects McClintock or someone like him. THAT is the issue at hand. You control your end of the argument and I'll control mine.
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posted on
09/20/2003 9:36:36 PM PDT
by
BlackElk
(Schwarzenegger is as Republican as his wife's Uncle Teddy or as Henry Waxman)
To: Robert_Paulson2
Libertarians already have (a thoroughly impotent) party. Go back to it.
292
posted on
09/20/2003 9:38:55 PM PDT
by
BlackElk
(Schwarzenegger is as Republican as his wife's Uncle Teddy or as Henry Waxman)
To: BlackElk
Only Arnie can WIN!!!!Bump
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posted on
09/20/2003 11:42:15 PM PDT
by
PRND21
To: BlackElk
"Only Arnie can win."They're terrified of a Governor Bustamante. And I know why. He'll take a wrecking ball to the state of California, driving it down far further than it already is. This frightens them. So they vote for a liberal Republican who won't have the stones to stop the taxing and spending, rationalizing that it's at least better than the alternative.
Conservatives like me don't think that way. If California under Bustamante becomes a depression-ridden war zone, then so be it. If Californians make themselves a bed of liberalism, let them sleep in it. I will never vote for a liberal and that's precisely what Schwarzenegger is.
The difference between me and the accomodationists is that I don't blink. And I know you don't either. If there were more of us in the Republican party, Bush would have no choice but to let Karl Rove "spend more time with his family" and let the US Army spend more time on our border.
To: Bonaparte
Nope. Observation. My argument is public, and easily available.
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posted on
09/21/2003 7:16:27 AM PDT
by
BibChr
("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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