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Breaking news from 1998!

Feel free to move from this, Admin.

The point is, though, clear.

Why has this been so polticized. The US Federal Government unequivocably outlined cooperation between Saddam/Iraq and bin Laden/al Qaeda in 1998.

No proof? No evidence?

This is only one of many reports but it is official US document and assertion, not a report in the press.

1 posted on 09/19/2003 3:03:30 PM PDT by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy
Amazing find. Good work tallhappy! You are correct we will only see it HERE on FR. Eventually we (FR) will be the last bastion of conservatism if the Media has it's way.
2 posted on 09/19/2003 3:06:25 PM PDT by PISANO
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To: tallhappy
Apparently the President, Rice and Rumsfeld don't agree with you or New York Times and Facts on File. They state flatly that they have no such evidence.
--Raoul
3 posted on 09/19/2003 3:07:22 PM PDT by RDangerfield
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To: tallhappy; Admin Moderator
AM please leave this in Breaking so others can see it .....a nice piece of research TH.
5 posted on 09/19/2003 3:12:08 PM PDT by Dog
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To: tallhappy; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave; FairOpinion; Cronos
We knew it in 1998. Why don't "we" (i.e., the dems, some freepers, and others) know it now?
8 posted on 09/19/2003 3:15:31 PM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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To: tallhappy
Excellent archival work!
13 posted on 09/19/2003 3:26:03 PM PDT by doug from upland (Why did DemocRATS allow a perjuring rapist to remain in the Oval Office?)
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To: tallhappy
Good work TAllhappy.
16 posted on 09/19/2003 3:31:15 PM PDT by q_an_a
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To: tallhappy
Very good.

Let the record be clear: This administration knows that Saddam was helping al Qaeda. What they do not go so far to assert is Iraq's involvement in 9/11, though they have not ruled it out.

What is galling is that the previous "administration" is the one promoting the lie that the two entities would never have anything to do with each other, when the evidence was plain during that time and they know it.....they now sing a different tune for only one reason: To undermine President Bush. And the country be damned. (And those in the media who sympathize with the clintons obviously ignore the state of the record and willingly put forth the false talking points)
17 posted on 09/19/2003 3:34:33 PM PDT by cyncooper (I believe VP Cheney)
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To: tallhappy
You missed the applicable principle. If a Democrat administration says Bin Laden is allied with Iraq, the fact is taken as established. If a Republican administration asserts the same thing, there is "no proof."
19 posted on 09/19/2003 3:36:12 PM PDT by colorado tanker (USA - taking out the world's trash since 1776)
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More. This is the original press release from the Clinton Justice Department.

It says Iran supported al Qaeda and Hezbollah worked with them. The press release leaves out Iraq -- despite it being in the indictment.

From State Department Web Site


Following is the text of the press release issued November 4 by United States Attorney -- Southern District of New York and the Federal Bureau of Investigation:

(Begin Text)

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

NOVEMBER 4, 1998

MARY JO WHITE, the United States Attorney - for the Southern District of New York, and LEWIS D. SCHILIRO, Assistant Director in Charge of the New York FBI Office, announced that USAMA BIN LADEN and MUHAMMAD ATEF, a/k/a "Abu Hafs," were indicted today in Manhattan federal court for the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and for conspiring to kill American nationals outside of the United States.

The United States Department of State also announced today rewards of up to $5 million each for information leading to the arrest or conviction of BIN LADEN and ATEF.

The first count of the Indictment charges that BIN LADEN and ATEF, along with co-defendants WADIH EL HAGE, FAZUL ABDULLAH MOHAMMED, MOHAMED SADEEK ODEH, and MOHAMED RASHED DAOUD AL-' OWHALI, acted together with other members of "al Qaeda," a worldwide terrorist organization led by BIN LADEN, in a conspiracy to murder United States nationals. The objectives of this international terrorist conspiracy allegedly included: killing members of the American military stationed in Saudi Arabia and Somalia; killing United States nationals employed at the United States Embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania; and concealing the activities of the co-conspirators by, among other things, establishing front companies, providing false identity and travel documents, engaging in coded correspondence and providing false information to the authorities in various countries.

BIN LADEN's organization al Qaeda allegedly functioned both on its own and through some of the terrorist organizations that operated under its umbrella, including the Al Jihad group based in Egypt, the Islamic Group (also known as "el Gamaa Islamia" or simply "Gamaa't"), led at one time by Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, and a number of jihad groups in other countries, including the Sudan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Somalia. Al Qaeda also allegedly maintained cells and personnel in a number of countries to facilitate it's activities, including in Kenya, Tanzania, the United Kingdom and the United States.

According to the Indictment, BIN LADEN and al Qaeda forged alliances with the National Islamic Front in the Sudan and with representatives of the government of Iran, and its associated terrorist group Hezballah, with the goal of working together against their perceived common enemies in the West, particularly the United States.

In order to further this international conspiracy to murder United States nationals, BIN LADEN and other co-conspirators are alleged to have committed the following acts: (1) providing training camps for use by al Qaeda and its affiliates; (2) recruiting United States citizens including the defendant EL HAGE to help facilitate the goals of al Qaeda; (3) purchasing weapons and explosives; and (4) establishing headquarters and businesses in the Sudan.

The Indictment also alleges that fatwahs were issued by BIN LADEN and a committee of al Qaeda members urging other members and associates of al Qaeda to kill Americans. According to the Indictment, several of these fatwahs, called for attacks on American troops stationed in Saudi Arabia and Somalia. The Indictment also alleges that American troops in Somalia were indeed attacked and killed by persons who received training from al Qaeda members or those trained by al Qaeda. The Indictment specifically charges that the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States embassies in Kenya and Tanzania as actions taken in furtherance of this conspiracy to kill American nationals.

BIN LADEN and ATEF, along with ABDULLAH MOHAMMED, ODEH, and AL-'OWHALI, are also charged with bombing the two embassies and causing the deaths of more than 200 persons and injuring more than 4,500 others. Those five defendants are also charged with murdering all of the civilians killed in the embassy bombings. The Indictment names all of the victims of the bombings and each victim is charged as a separate count of murder for a total of 224 counts of murder against BIN LADEN, ATEF, ABDULLAH MOHAMMED, ODEH and AL-OWHALI.

Ms. WHITE and Mr. SCHILIRO said the investigation of this case is being conducted by the Joint Terrorist Task Force composed of the FBI, the New York City Police Department, the United States Department of State, the United States Secret Service, the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service, the Federal Aviation Administration, the United States Marshals Service, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, the New York State Police and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

Ms. WHITE and Mr. SCHILIRO praised the Governments of Kenya, Tanzania and the Comoros Islands for their cooperation in this investigation and praised all the investigative efforts and cooperation of the agencies involved in the case. They also said that the investigation is continuing.

United States Attorney General Janet Reno stated: "This is an important step forward in our fight against terrorism. It sends a message that no terrorist can flout our laws and murder innocent civilians."

Ms. WHITE stated: "Usama Bin Laden and his military commander Muhammad Atef are charged with the most heinous acts of violence ever committed against American diplomatic posts. These acts caused the deaths of hundreds of citizens of Kenya, Tanzania and the United States. All those responsible for these brutal and cowardly acts, from the leaders and organizers to all of those who had any role in these crimes in East Africa, will be brought to justice."

Mr. SCHILIRO stated: "This investigation has been given the highest priority. Our investigative strategy is clear: We will identify, locate and prosecute all those responsible right up the line, from those who constructed and delivered the bombs to those who paid for them and ordered it done. This has been an investigation which has involved the largest deployment of FBI agents abroad, including members of the Joint Terrorist Task Force. Working closely with the law enforcement authorities in Kenya and Tanzania, our investigators have made significant progress, yet much remains to be done."

BIN LADEN and ATEF, both of whom are fugitives, face a maximum sentence of life imprisonment without the possibility of parole, or death.

Assistant United States Attorneys PATRICK J. FITZGERALD, KENNETH M. KARAS and MICHAEL J. GARCIA are in charge of the prosecution.

The charges contained in the Indictment are merely accusations, and the defendants are presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty.

(End text)

21 posted on 09/19/2003 3:41:53 PM PDT by tallhappy
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Indictment docket info here
25 posted on 09/19/2003 3:44:55 PM PDT by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy
Good work, t.

And where is Michael Scott Speicher? He's one of my reasons for us having gone in.

27 posted on 09/19/2003 3:48:21 PM PDT by onedoug
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FYI
28 posted on 09/19/2003 3:50:52 PM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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United States Information Agency


04 November 1998

BIN LADEN, ATEF INDICTED IN U.S. FEDERAL COURT FOR AFRICAN BOMBINGS

(Terrorists will be tracked down, officials say) (920)

By Judy Aita
USIA Staff Writer

New York -- Usama bin Laden and Muhammad Atef were indicted November 4 in Manhattan federal court for the August 7 bombings of the US embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and for conspiring to kill Americans outside the United States.

US Attorney Mary Jo White and Assistant director of the FBI office in New York Lewis Schiliro -- accompanied by a group of other federal, state and local officials involved in the investigation -- announced the indictments at a press conference. Ambassador David Carpenter of the US Department of State also announced rewards of up to $5 million each for information leading to the arrest or conviction of bin Laden and Atef.

"Usama bin Laden and his military commander Muhammad Atef are charged with plotting and carrying out the most heinous acts of international terrorism and murder," White said.

"Their alleged victims include the hundreds of African and American citizens who tragically lost their lives in the embassy bombings in east Africa on August 7, 1998, and the thousands more who were seriously injured. In a greater sense, all of the citizens of the world are also victims whenever and wherever the cruel and cowardly acts of international terrorism strike," she said. "It is up to the authorities of the world to respond vigorously and relentlessly to such terrorist attacks. This investigation is continuing worldwide and will continue until all of those responsible are brought to justice," White stressed.

Schiliro said that the indictment demonstrates the "resolve and determination of the entire law enforcement team to bring to justice all those who were responsible for the murder of innocent Americans, Kenyans, and Tanzanians on August 7."

"This investigation has been given the highest priority," the FBI official said. "Our investigative strategy is clear: We will identify, locate, and prosecute all those responsible right up the line from those who constructed and delivered the bombs to those who paid for them and ordered it done."

"Though far from complete, in three short months much has been accomplished due to the dedication and determination of the investigators and prosecutors and also because of the professionalism and total cooperation of the governments of Kenya, Tanzania, and the Comoros Islands," he said.

The investigation deployed the largest contingent of FBI agents abroad and included members of the multi-agency joint terrorist task force -- New York City Police Department detectives, US customs agents, US Secret Service, the New York State Police, the Federal Aviation Administration, and the US Immigration and Naturalization Service.

"The work they have done in recovering physical evidence at the crime scene and developing other leads that will assist in this investigation cannot be overstated," Schiliro said. "Their resolve and determination to identify all those involved should not be underestimated."

New York City Police Chief Howard Safir said that the indictment "sends a very clear message that terrorists will be held accountable no matter where they commit their acts."

Both White and Schiliro stressed that the investigation will not end with the current indictment and is continuing.

The 238-count indictment charges, among other things, that bin Laden and Atef along with co-defendants Wadih el Hage, Fazul Abdullah Mohammed Sadeek Odeh, and Mohamed Rashed Daoud al'Owhali, acted together with other members of "al Qaeda" -- the worldwide terrorist organization led by bin Laden -- to murder US nationals, including members of the American military stationed in Saudi Arabia following the Gulf War and in Somalia as part of UN Operation Restore Hope, as well as those employed at US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. They established front companies, provided false identity and travel documents, and provided false information to authorities in various countries.

Bin Laden's "al Qaeda" organization functioned both on its own and through other terrorist organizations, including the Al Jihad group based in Egypt, the Islamic Group also known as el Gamaa Islamia led at one time by Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, and a number of other jihad groups in countries such as Sudan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Somalia.

Bin Laden, White charged, engaged in business transactions on behalf of Al Qaeda, including purchasing warehouses for storage of explosives, transporting weapons, and establishing a series of companies in Sudan to provide income to al Qaeda and as a cover for the procurement of explosives, weapons, and chemicals, and for the travel of operatives.

According to the indictment, bin Laden and al Qaeda forged alliances with the National Islamic Front in Sudan and with representatives of the Government of Iran and its associated terrorist group Hezballah with the goal of working together against their common enemies in the West, particularly the United States.

"In addition, al Qaeda reached an understanding with the Government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the Government of Iraq," the indictment said.

Beginning in 1992, bin Laden allegedly issued through his "fatwah" committees a series of escalating "fatwahs" against the United States, certain military personnel, and, eventually in February 1998, a "fatwah" stating that Muslims should kill Americans -- including civilians -- anywhere in the world they can be found.

Bin Laden and Atef, both of whom are fugitives, if convicted, face maximum sentences of life in prison without the possibility of parole or death, White said.

Above from State Department.

30 posted on 09/19/2003 3:51:36 PM PDT by tallhappy
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This is a phenomenal find!

Thanks.

Send it to Hannity and O'Reilly.
31 posted on 09/19/2003 3:54:06 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: tallhappy
Indictment is at this link, pdf format United States of America vs Usama bin Laden.
32 posted on 09/19/2003 3:55:45 PM PDT by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy
BTTT - Sweet!

They'll probably say that this guy was the source...



33 posted on 09/19/2003 4:05:48 PM PDT by LayoutGuru2 (Call me paranoid but finding '/*' inside this comment makes me suspicious)
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To: tallhappy
Active link please?
(need it for bookmark)
Thanks.
39 posted on 09/19/2003 4:56:21 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Lucifers lefties are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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BUMP
40 posted on 09/19/2003 6:01:46 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Lucifers lefties are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: tallhappy
Great find! Thank you. We knew the media were liars - we just keep getting more and more proof every day.

Some weeks ago on FR there was an article that the New York Times, Newsweek, Time and a handful of other major publications wrote stories linking AQ and Iraq. The stories WERE ALL written in 1997 and 1998 - right around the time Clinton signed the Iraqi Liberation Act.
43 posted on 09/19/2003 6:25:46 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: tallhappy
The US Federal Government unequivocably outlined cooperation between Saddam/Iraq and bin Laden/al Qaeda in 1998.

You apparently didn’t even bother to read you own posting. There is absolutely nothing in the 2 articles you posted about the relationship between OBL and Iraq except for one reference to an “alleged deal “. This is laughable.

49 posted on 09/19/2003 6:49:13 PM PDT by thtr
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